ok thanks cybog, im gonna start on that model now!! thanks for your help! ill be sure to PM you or something if i have more questions.

oh and that model up there that i wanna do, i plan on making it much more realistic and put a hell a lot more detail in it..so i hope you would still recommend "box modeling"

and i do have a pirated 3ds max 5.0 but i couldnt find a keygen/crack for it(that worked, i did find a few but none of them worked...) but AXEL edge is a nice basic 3d modelling program for starters!