Originally Posted by
vashti 
No - what I meant is you should hang out in a group with her long enough to determine that you would like to date her, and THEN speak to her mom. Hanging out for a short while as friends will also give you a better idea about whether or not she likes you.
Yeah, that sounds like a plan. She's already invited me to hang out with her, and her friends, which through my brother I know most of anyway. So that should be relatively easy to do. Hopefully I'll be sure of how to go about this in a couple weeks, once I've been with her face-to-face, a little more.