Originally Posted by
mcs7474 
Define "illusionist", like a magician? If thats what you mean who cares. Christianity and harmlessly entertaining people in that way are not contradictory, and to assume they are is ignorant on your part for insinuating that they are. If can explain what this illusionist does that takes a shit on the Christian faith please do so.
Up yours, MCS. This guy was a killer, a gangster, a drug dealer, a rapist, what have you. He became a magician in order to 'learn' super natural powers. I was not offended until they came out and started preaching about how other religions are wrong and christianity is right and blah blah blah. Mind you, I paid $8 not knowing that this jackass was going to do this.
Quite frankly, I do not give a **** if christians are going to entertain me. I will watch their entertainment, I am not biased that way. Don't be an idiot and assume such things. They crossed the ****ing line by preaching. I would not have minded if I didn't pay $8 to get in, but that part in particular is what I find most offensive; charge people so that you can lock them up in a room and make them listen to you. When you have to stoop to such a level to get people to listen, you're doing something wrong.
The one thing I don't like about Christianity is how they do everything they can to get you to become a christian. In my own religion, we do not do that to people. I think it is wrong to force your views on other people. People need to come to their own understandings.
That's what this thread is about.
Originally Posted by
vashti If you are sure this was not advertised as a Christian event, I admit that I would be irritated. You paid money to be entertained, not proselytized to, and certainly not to be passed a collection plate. It sounds to me like this guy has learned to capitalize on the Jerry Springer-like public confession and Jerry Falwell-style evangelism. Yuck. How tacky. Did you ask for your money back?
I was in Salt Lake City once, and of course I wanted to go see the Mormon temple and hear the choir because they are both spectacular. I decided to take a historical tour, which was actually quite interesting until the end, when they started proselytizing. I ended up leaving the tour.
Well, I feel it was purposely mis advertised. It's like those disclaimers written in a font that you can't read without a magnifying glass. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out, you know? Nobody is going to notice the small disclaimer in the bottom right corner. It looked like an ordinary school event, too.
That's kind of disappointing about the mormon thing, but at least you weren't charged? Going to their temple, you should expect them to do so. I would probably expect the same thing if I went to a mormon temple to do some family history research...
Originally Posted by
misombra oh gawd that shit bothers me. i know plenty of people who are this way.
including my sister. ugh, the rape of love and spirituality. i don't blame you for being angered by that.
what did you say on your note?
by the way one of my favorite quotes from the bible has a place here: faith without work is dead.
Maybe I am biased in the way that, that just because you become a christian or accept some sort of religion does not make anything better. The way I understand it... is...
"You do bad thing, bad thing happens to you. If you do good thing, good thing happens to you."
On my note, I just mentioned that I thought it was rude of them to try to force their beliefs on other people and how they should allow people to reason for themselves. I did not ask for my money back, because I did not try and get out. I would have tried if my friend wasn't there. The only reason I came was to keep my friend company; he had to write a paper on the show.
Originally Posted by
DoesntMatter You shouldn't really take offense to this, he wasn't making fun of you was he?
During one of my bio lectures a guest lecturer made fun of Catholicism for being against stem cell research in a very attacking way, I didn't really take much offense to it because I can drop that guys ass if he kept on being a prick
Ego. I do not need to fight in order to prove myself. I do not need to prove myself at all, because I have my own understandings. Let people think what they want to think. I do, however, like to point out ignorance.
DM, you don't need to make fun of someone to offend them. I was very offended that I had been forced into listening to this guy, after paying to be entertained. This guy was very biased, very right-winged christian. You know, the kind that is so sure of himself that nothing else could possibly ever be right.
I guess in a way, I am offended by ignorance.