Ratfish256: Hehe, I see you took a bit of advice from me from this thread. However, keep in mind, some of the ladder theory is a bit of bull but in all honestly, after reading it over and pondering on it for a bit. I believe that majority of what they say do have some truth behind it. It didn't take me long before I realized that the theory for men applies to me.

LucidDream: go to www.revscene.net ---> Loft 125 ---> Relationship & Gender Discussion ---> on the bottom right hand corner type in "ladder theory" in the search

Here you will find many different threads with reference to this theory and on quite a few of them many of the males were honest enough to agree with the ladder theory, at least for guys. And as much as I would like to be a gentlemen, nice guy...etc. I have to admit subconsciously I've come to realize that it is true. I will confess.