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Junket
21-12-06, 06:38 AM
How do you know when you've reached a state of mental instability?

If you can rationalize irrationality...if you're really crazy, is it possible to be aware of it?

Kiechi
21-12-06, 06:49 AM
How do you know when you've reached a state of mental instability?

If you can rationalize irrationality...if you're really crazy, is it possible to be aware of it?

Doubt it. Crazy people think they're sane.

anachronistic
21-12-06, 06:53 AM
illusions are a big factor.

usually, the person who has the disturbance, is not the one who realizes; it's their peers. because, they seem to have 'imaginary friends' who claim are really there, but they aren't.

schizophrenia often makes someone feel like there is bugs all over their skin, causing them to scratch their skin raw. but there isn't really bugs there.

Kiechi
21-12-06, 06:54 AM
illusions are a big factor.

usually, the person who has the disturbance, is not the one who realizes; it's their peers. because, they seem to have 'imaginary friends' who claim are really there, but they aren't.

schizophrenia often makes someone feel like there is bugs all over their skin, causing them to scratch their skin raw. but there isn't really bugs there.

Talking about going on a tangent...

artyemi
21-12-06, 07:01 AM
Fras- I ask myself that question every other day. How do you know? Maybe pay someone to tell you, like a psychiatrist?

anachronistic
21-12-06, 07:21 AM
how do you know?

the day you decide to kill yourself. that is when you are mentally unstable [for life].

Zach
21-12-06, 07:31 AM
I think you mentally unstable when your unhappy and can't find your way back to being happy/content.

Sooky
21-12-06, 08:17 AM
I think you can recognise when you've reached mental instability if you've managed to create a seperate logical side to your personality. However, that in itself could be a sign of mental instability. And as emotions all too often prevent us from being logical how the hell can you tell when you're not being logical?

Kiechi
21-12-06, 08:27 AM
I think you can recognise when you've reached mental instability if you've managed to create a seperate logical side to your personality. However, that in itself could be a sign of mental instability. And as emotions all too often prevent us from being logical how the hell can you tell when you're not being logical?

Maybe we were all born mentally instable?

Sooky
21-12-06, 08:30 AM
Maybe we were all born mentally instable?

Its a disturbing thought, but the evidence is all around us. Although of course some of use are born more mentally unstable than others and the environment plays its part. Blah, blah, blah.... But yeah, eventually it all comes down to those annoying brain chemicals of ours again.

Damn those brain chemicals!!! Damn them all to hell!!! :P

Kiechi
21-12-06, 08:37 AM
Its a disturbing thought, but the evidence is all around us. Although of course some of use are born more mentally unstable than others and the environment plays its part. Blah, blah, blah.... But yeah, eventually it all comes down to those annoying brain chemicals of ours again.

Damn those brain chemicals!!! Damn them all to hell!!! :P

Even the ones that are telling you that you are in love with me? :upset:

anachronistic
21-12-06, 08:38 AM
on different levels, i believe we all are.

just like the chinese proverb; "we are all ignorant, on certain topics"

Sooky
21-12-06, 08:48 AM
Even the ones that are telling you that you are in love with me? :upset:

Well I don't recall having those particular brain chemicals... but yes especially those if they were there. Romantic love is the ultimate form of natural mind control. It will push all logic out of the window if you're not careful. :P

Kiechi
21-12-06, 08:53 AM
Well I don't recall having those particular brain chemicals... but yes especially those if they were there. Romantic love is the ultimate form of natural mind control. It will push all logic out of the window if you're not careful. :P

:upset: :upset: :upset: :upset:

Ouch...

Sooky
21-12-06, 09:01 AM
:upset: :upset: :upset: :upset:

Ouch...

See love hurts. It sucks!!! Thatís why I try and block it out. So I guess I could be hiding intense feelings of love towards you deep down in my subconscious somewhere. Its possible... :)

If I was going to love anyone it'd be you. I mean we are married for Heavens sake!!! And when you asked me I didn't take long to say yes (just a few seconds if I recall) so thatís got to tell you something.Its obvious really. I'm in denial. :)

Kiechi
21-12-06, 09:05 AM
See love hurts. It sucks!!! Thatís why I try and block it out. So I guess I could be hiding intense feelings of love towards you deep down in my subconscious somewhere. Its possible... :)

If I was going to love anyone it'd be you. I mean we are married for Heavens sake!!! And when you asked me I didn't take long to say yes (just a few seconds if I recall) so thatís got to tell you something.Its obvious really. I'm in denial. :)

(I knew it)

You're from the UK right? If so, why do you AIM only?

Sooky
21-12-06, 09:11 AM
I've only given my AOL on here to try and maintain my secret identity. ;)

(And now in the interests of natural security I must ask you to forget what you have just read. Or you can PM me and I might just show you how deep the rabbit hole goes... :evil:)

Sooky
21-12-06, 09:16 AM
Did Z show you? And now you're doing it too?

Huh? Have I missed something?

Gigabitch
21-12-06, 10:48 AM
Zarathu is the AIM Pied Piper.

Junket
21-12-06, 11:28 AM
They even asked me "Do you need to talk to somebody?" and of course I said, "Huh? No, no, it's not like I'm mentally unstable, it's tough I won't deny, but I have ways of venting the stress."

Everything seems to logical when I speak with them, I sound like the most intelligent, rational, honest person when I speak with them. They're all so impressed by how well I'm managing the situation.

But all that goes to shit as soon as I hang up the phone.

And I'm not managing the situation, I'm just the bitch who won't scream as they slowly rape me for all I'm worth.

misombra
21-12-06, 12:49 PM
i've accepted the fact that i'm crazy.

being mentally unstable has made my life better in many ways.

TDurden
21-12-06, 02:09 PM
They even asked me "Do you need to talk to somebody?" and of course I said, "Huh? No, no, it's not like I'm mentally unstable, it's tough I won't deny, but I have ways of venting the stress."

Everything seems to logical when I speak with them, I sound like the most intelligent, rational, honest person when I speak with them. They're all so impressed by how well I'm managing the situation.

But all that goes to shit as soon as I hang up the phone.

And I'm not managing the situation, I'm just the bitch who won't scream as they slowly rape me for all I'm worth.

It's really hard to follow this when one doesn't know what situation you're talking about

Junket
21-12-06, 02:22 PM
It's really hard to follow this when one doesn't know what situation you're talking about

I'm sorry but I have to stay cryptic about this.

I know it doesn't make any sense to you guys, but telling you really won't help my situation.

I have to vent (unfortunately almost every day) and posting, writing, talking this babble helps.

Believe me if I had a means to solve this issue (the "right" way) any sooner I would. It's a waiting game that started over a month ago that I'm losing patience with, and that they don't care to hurry along. Until this shit is settled with, one way or another, I cannot plan even the next month of my life without risking being torn away from it all.

You guys don't have to read these posts, or respond to them, but I have to put it out there, I've always had to put it out there. I never had a place to put it before, but now I do. Here in LF, there on my blog. Even the idea of somebody having an idea of what I'm going through is of some comfort.

I'm just trying to do what I must to survive with my sanity.

It's just getting really difficult.

Zach
21-12-06, 10:31 PM
Do you love a girl whom is close friends with another guy and you know he likes her? If he likes her then them being friends kills you because you know the nature of their communication. She may be attracted to him but says nothing or does voice her opinion. He treats her differently than just a friend simply because he likes her. And you are stuck in between them both by your attatchment to her? Not all three people can exist together in harmony at the same time with all these emotions binding the situation together.

Just a guess. Do you play a role here at all?

Junket
21-12-06, 11:21 PM
Do you love a girl whom is close friends with another guy and you know he likes her? If he likes her then them being friends kills you because you know the nature of their communication. She may be attracted to him but says nothing or does voice her opinion. He treats her differently than just a friend simply because he likes her. And you are stuck in between them both by your attatchment to her? Not all three people can exist together in harmony at the same time with all these emotions binding the situation together.

Just a guess. Do you play a role here at all?

What the **** are you talking about?

Go back to spouting about chicken holocausts or somethin'.

Zach
22-12-06, 12:07 AM
What the **** are you talking about?

Go back to spouting about chicken holocausts or somethin'.

Hey I was just asking. I have been there and what you described as cryptic reminded me of that situation. I just figured I would ask since I have nothing better to offer.

Chicken holocaust... rofl

artyemi
22-12-06, 03:38 AM
Frasbee, I don't think it's possible to always manage everything or keep everything under control. There are times when I sympathize with people who do things that are wrong whether against the law or morally. Then I start wondering how can I sympathize with such monsters and whether I'm just breaking down. There's no rules that say you can't breakdown every down and then.

Junket
23-12-06, 04:11 AM
I think I'm paranoid...I just got a package from my brother...he knows what's going on...he knows it all...I haven't spoken with him since he called me for my address...I didn't even look at the contents at first...I just pulled out the card...on front it read:
"believe nothing,
no matter where you read it
or who has said it,
not even if I have said it,
unless it agrees with your own reason
and your own common sense.

- buddha"

all he wrote inside was "Love, your brother Jim"

I finally cried...I read it to many times...even now I keep reading it...then I looked into the box and I can see which gifts were from his wife and which ones were from my brother...my brother sent me a very large green army duffel bag...maybe I'm reading too far into it but just the other day I jokingly asked in an e-mail if he would like to move to Canada with me, or Mexico...I feel like I can't trust them anymore...maybe I should get away? this hurts more only because I can't tell Amy...it all comes down to Amy...

vashti
23-12-06, 05:52 AM
It's all too cryptic for me. If you want to talk for real, you can PM me any time.

Zach
23-12-06, 07:36 AM
Yeah - I think the Buddha is amazing. I have read much about him.

But beyond that I agree it is too cryptic to give anything back.
My offer always stands. Im always here to talk Fras. Anytime.

Junket
23-12-06, 11:53 AM
Look, I'll tell you guys no more than I've told my closest friend.

Basically, I'm in trouble with the authorities over something that happened almost a decade ago (as in not recent).

So that's why my life is on hold, that's why my VISTA job has gone to shit, that's why I can't commit to Amy right now as much as I should and want to.

I don't know how this is all gonna turn out, and I don't know when it's gonna turn out. I've done, and I do as much as I can from my position as possible, but a lot of it has me waiting around for an answer from this or that person and answers don't come frequently, and they rarely actually answer any of my questions.

I've always been a person to look to the future, and not the past, and that's why this is so difficult. What's also frustrating is that the "issue" they're so focused on doesn't even come close to the core problem of it all.

Not even close.

I'm caught trying to live as "normally" as I can, trying to hide what's going on the best I can from the people who don't really need to know about it, all while trying to prepare for what may come.

I'm up some days, and I'm way down other days. Sometimes all within the hour.

This is has been my life since early November.

I'm frustrated, depressed, angry and rightfully so.

Junket
23-12-06, 01:48 PM
I just talked to my brother.

I feel so much better now.

I'm sorry I'm spouting all this shit, but I have to do it to stay sane.

Believe me when I say it too, because I'm not one to overreact, and this situation is that serious.

I'm gonna try to keep the majority of these kinds of posts here in this thread.

Like I said before, you guys don't have to read or reply to them, I understand there's nothing you guys really understand, it's just something I feel the need to do.

vashti
23-12-06, 01:53 PM
I wish I could be helpful, but since I can't, I hope writing it makes you feel better.

Zach
23-12-06, 02:14 PM
Same here. There really isn't anything we can do except keep you company, and Im glad to do just that for you.

Junket
23-12-06, 02:14 PM
I wish I could be helpful, but since I can't, I hope writing it makes you feel better.

I 'preciate it Vash.

I really do.

You guys been great, always been here for me.

Like the family I can take with me anywhere, so long as I have an internet connection.

anachronistic
24-12-06, 08:31 AM
Like the family I can take with me anywhere, so long as I have an internet connection.

an equal analogy with pornsites;

a slut you can take with you anywhere, just as long as you have an internet connection