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chelsee
14-03-07, 02:08 AM
do guys have a hard time asking out girls that are really hot? guys tell me that i'm a 9 and they say it's hard to ask me out and stuff because they think i'm going to shoot them done. so i really don't get asked out that much.

Junket
14-03-07, 08:50 AM
Just means you have to make yourself more approachable, which you can do by taking the initiative to approach them.

surfnsand
14-03-07, 11:15 AM
If you're a 9, as long as you're not next to a 10 you'll be fine! :-)

Men would love to date you and to let the guy you want know you are available, talk to him and his friend and have fun..."looks and cool too!"
sh--, buy the first drinks, that'll shock 'em.....guys ask girls out that they are attracted to - but are comfortable with - so, uhh compliment him - as long as it is true....hope he compliments you too....you touch his arm....he touches yours...wammo..game on. send pix!

(re: spelling: down is not "done" by the way)

Gigabitch
14-03-07, 11:18 AM
I'll bet you have problems with other women hating you, too.

Just be who you are. You can't spend your life stressing about how others perceive you. It's a waste of your time.

You don't want a man who doesn't possess the balls to ask you out in the first place. His insecurities will poison your relationship.

Gribble
14-03-07, 11:25 AM
You just haven't met me yet, babe.

Gigabitch
14-03-07, 11:29 AM
Exactly. Save yourself for Gribble. Just don't expect much- he has the attention span of a gnat.

anachronistic
14-03-07, 12:40 PM
My last girlfriend was very high maintainence. She has probably $12,000 of clothing, not ****ing kidding. That's not including all her expensive jewelry (she never wore the handcarved jade heart necklace pendant that I gave to her... :( she preferred much more expensive things like diamond-embedded 24 karot gold american eagle symbols and shit.)

By the way, I hate american ****ing eagle and all that other shit. I decided i'm not going out with any girls that deck themselves in that shit. The analogy is red flag:bull as american eagle:lilwing

her parents also bought her a brand new lhs for $60,000 and gave it to her on a random occasion (she already had a mustang convertible)

Know something? I have about $100 worth of clothing. I have enough clothes to get by for a week (some are hand-me-downs) I bought everything I have: 3 guitars 1 decent amp, all my videogames, art supplies, cell phone, and my own $2000 oldsmobile. that's all i have.

I pay for my own food, and i'm self dependent. nobody is paying college off for me, no nothing. She had everything handed to her on a silver platter. She didn't appreciate what I gave her. and I gave her all that I could give

Truth is if she is higher maintanence than me, i wouldn't be able to live with it because they just don't appreciate anything. I need to feel needed.

surfnsand
14-03-07, 12:54 PM
a girlfriend who is high maintenance in the emotions department can be even worse than in the material department. usually they end up with nice guys: "yes dear, here's the platinum card dear, i am sorry you are so angsted out today dear..."

It can actually be tougher than: "sh--, you just spent how much on your shoes???"

both suck. but many a guy will hang in a long time if the #$@!! is good.

heaven help him if he marries her...it's on him then...but it happens every day! :-)

Charlie Boy
14-03-07, 01:07 PM
Bitches, every last one of them is bitches.

vashti
14-03-07, 01:09 PM
Bitches, every last one of them is bitches.

Shut up before I smack you. :evil:

anachronistic
14-03-07, 01:14 PM
Shut up before I smack you. :evil:

Ooo sexy dominatrix :love:

Gribble
14-03-07, 01:16 PM
If he gets a smack we all get a smack. It's only fair!

jurupa
15-03-07, 03:05 AM
If he gets a smack we all get a smack. It's only fair!Uh..........





chelsee - How old are you? From your post you seem to be in high school. If so most guys in high school have trouble asking the hot girls out. But I am wondering what is with the title? Are you high maintenance? If so then there are a fair number of guys that are turned off by such girls. I am one.

zro
18-03-07, 12:20 PM
as above, do you mean that you have a needy and demanding personlaity? if so, you will probably have only guys who go out with you only for your looks and cringe everytime you open your mouth, a definite put off

if you mean that you are a very good looking girl, us guys (well maybe just me) just assume you are taken or are not interested unless there is strong evidence to suggest otherwise

side note to gigbitch - why is a guy that doesnt ask you out - you assume he is spineless, i know guys who asks at least 5 girls out every weekend - but tell them someone wants to fight them or has a problem with them and are the first to run out the back door - talking to someone doesnt require balls (in most cases) taking a punch to the face does IMO, lets face facts in most situations its the girl who decides if there is relationship or not, so why the **** do we have to ask

vashti
18-03-07, 12:32 PM
talking to someone doesnt require balls (in most cases) ... [...]...so why the **** do we have to ask

Tradition. Besides, if it doesn't take balls to ask a girl out, then what is the problem with you doing it?

CAM
18-03-07, 12:56 PM
When I used to date, I always pursued the hot girls. Despite being an 5'8" 145 lbs nerdy guy, I usually got the girl.

I don't like being shot down, but if you don't ask, you don't get.

You're right, most guys are scared of you. Don't be fooled by the really hot guys, assuming that because they are hot they are confident...most of them are not. In fact, the hot guys are usually more scared of getting shot down that me--Mr. Average Looks.

zro
18-03-07, 01:00 PM
Tradition?! - tradition means nothing these days, its "tradition" for a male to earn a living while the female is supposed to be "stay at home mum", its "tradition" for a male to be manly and not wear make up, but you get these "metrosexuals" who look like a make up store exploded on their face, its "tradition" for a female to not experiment sexually until marriage, i can keep doing this for 2 pages if you want but i think you get the picture..."tradition" means nothing these days

For me personally i have my reasons for not wanting to talk to too many people (check out the ask a female forum if you want to know), but in general i think its degrading and lacking self respect to grovel to these/any girls (or any other human for that matter), considering that most of them complain about "sleazy guys" asking them out all the time - sometimes i think girls think they are above guys because we have to ask and the reality is that we are all equal, plus if they make the decision, wouldnt it be easier and more logical if they just picked and stop playing games - hope i answered your question

vashti
18-03-07, 01:30 PM
Zro - You can protest it not being "fair" all you like, but it won't change the simple fact that the guys who actually go out with girls are generally the ones who ask. Tradition may mean little to you, but we are ALL enslaved to some extent by our gender roles. Sure, girls experiment sexually before marriage, but they are often labelled sluts for doing so. Women work outside the home these days, but they are still expected to come home and cook, clean, and get the kids into bed. Teenage boys wearing makeup is a sign of rebellion, a traditional teenage role, albeit manifested differently than in days past.

Ultimately though, if you find talking to girls so distatseful, then I agree that you shouldn't.

NeoSeminole
18-03-07, 01:31 PM
girls are dumb, plain and simple.

CAM
18-03-07, 01:36 PM
ZRO--Point taken to the degree that we are all equal in some ways. Get used to the idea that in the social realm, women are in charge (like it or not, they are on their way to being totally economically and politically in charge, too). They make and change the rules regularly.

Don't like it or find it frustrating, you can become CAM (I no longer date, but who gets hurt in that situation? Not the women.) But even I will admit that if I want to play ball, I have to play their little game. If I don't want to play, then I am certainly free to effectively end my genetic line. Believe me, no woman will lose sleep over this if I choose to remain on this path to oblivion. It really is the law of the jungle and as much as they will give you a big hug while you are crying about your misfortune, ultimately you are the loser and they are not.

It is just basic animal nature...we pursue; they reject or accept based on how likely it is that you are going to produce and help raise/support off-spring. It is as simple as that. Anybody who gives you a line of crap about how relationships are built around mutual interest in skinny espressoes and salsa dancing lessons is full of...well, crap.

zro
18-03-07, 02:53 PM
vashti - i never said it wasnt "fair", to me it just seems illogical and kind of dumb to initiate something when the decision is out of my hands and also a woman/girl who has sex before marriage is not a "slut" - that would make 95% of the female population sluts, i would be hard pressed to find a girl in her twenties that is still a virgin

CAM - i was never arguing that girls dont have the upper hand when it comes to relationships, thats my point - if they do then why do we have to take "control and initiate" when in fact they have the "control"

it feels like i am just repeating myself and beating a dead horse with a stick, so i will leave it there, sorry for hijacking your thread (to the original poster)

weirdy
18-03-07, 10:41 PM
why do we have to take "control and initiate" when in fact they have the "control"?
But you just said it yourself - if we assume that women are in charge, that means that THEY choose, so: a guy makes his move to make her know he's interested, and just then she can make the final decision.
When it's vice versa, a man is the one that chooses.

General MacŪ
19-03-07, 10:15 AM
BE angry at mummy and daddy for producing such a fine product as yourself...But be happy that you are the most desired out of the species....

1. Make your self approachable (ie smile, be open, etc)
2. LIMIT the male friends, that will intimidate any potential partener
3. Most likely all your male friends want a piece of you
4. Go out more, do things to your TARGET, that an alpha male would do to his target
5. Don't play tooo hard to get, it will work against you
6. Be prepared to face major HATORATION from your fellow female kind
7. DON'T be NEEDY, DEMANDING, HIGH MAINTANANCE, BITCHY, FEMINIST..those are all classic traits of an attractive woman..(not all women ofcourse)

ImSprung
21-03-07, 07:26 AM
You don't want a man who doesn't possess the balls to ask you out in the first place. His insecurities will poison your relationship.

So true i deffinantly agree with every word of that. Alot of guys i know have said the same about me. That i seem so confident and like im just going to laugh at them if they approach me. Just be you, thats all you can be. Dont try and make yourself more approachable because then your not being yourself and the guy will have more of a shock when he gets to no the real you.

anachronistic
21-03-07, 08:22 AM
i actually just found out that my ex isn't high maintainance-- her parents just spoil her to control her.

she really doesn't want all that.