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clearskies
18-06-08, 07:39 PM
One of the postings on the forum made me really think about it. How would you regard a black & white person? The one who sees things as black and white, a logical system, either high or love, 1 or zero, right or wrong? Is that a good ethics or a narrow mind as someone has claimed?
Personally I agree, 'no greys please' although I am pretty confident that a perfect person does not exist. But at the end of the day, I do not like greys in relations, work or any aspect of life.
What is your opinion?

Lipp
18-06-08, 08:04 PM
I would consider a person with that mindset to be naive and lacking information.

DoesntMatter
18-06-08, 10:09 PM
If you don't like people who see everything in gray avoid Iraq. Nothing is right or wrong to those dumbass camel jockeys

boobaa
18-06-08, 11:45 PM
If you don't like people who see everything in gray, avoid DM.




Then again, seeing something either right or wrong can narrow down the mindset and it is easier to live, therefore life can be more fulfilled. But there is a difference between naive black and white person and strict black and white person. First one only sees the blurry image, other one sees the little details that create the big image.

clearskies
18-06-08, 11:49 PM
I like the words of Booba that describe 'a strict black and white person'.

misombra
19-06-08, 12:28 AM
what if you're brown?

clearskies
19-06-08, 12:37 AM
is that symbolic reference? definitely we are talking here about various situations where decisions are required, Will we take the grey zone or W&B ?

misombra
19-06-08, 12:39 AM
i don't want to take any of those zones.

**** black. **** white. and **** gray.

DoesntMatter
19-06-08, 12:50 AM
If you don't like people who see everything in gray, avoid DM.

lol really boobaa? I thought people would have said I was black and white. Either way, I bet boobaa is quite white, being Estonian and all

bluesummer
19-06-08, 02:02 AM
I don't understand people with a 'black & white' view of the world. To me, it shows they are close minded and not creative. They are unable to think outside of the box or understand another person's perspective on things.

clearskies
19-06-08, 02:09 AM
honestly , i regard them as twisty liars ... uncapable of taking a decision but leading twisty ways to evade a critical situation or win it for example...

boobaa
19-06-08, 04:43 AM
I don't understand people with a 'black & white' view of the world. To me, it shows they are close minded and not creative. They are unable to think outside of the box or understand another person's perspective on things.

But here you are being black and white person yourself, by categorizing them as close minded and not creative.

DM, now when I begin to think about it, yes, you might actually be black. But speaking of Estonia as white, I must say that Estonian atmosphere is quite gray...

DoesntMatter
19-06-08, 04:48 AM
Boobaa you should post your pic in the gallery. Not to use peer pressure or anything, but everybodys doing it!

Gigabitch
19-06-08, 04:48 AM
A psychotherapist would say that a "black and white" person would have a lot of work to do.

clearskies
19-06-08, 05:23 AM
Please explain Giga bitch... he/she needs a lot of work to do versus what? to be able to face life and overcome problems?

Gigabitch
19-06-08, 05:24 AM
Black and white don't exist- they're constructs to help control freaks think they can always be right, always be in charge.

clearskies
19-06-08, 05:29 AM
That is a good point Giga... but if you thought of the ethical side when facing tough situations... do not you yourself have a say about it based on the fact you view it as Right or Wrong?

Gigabitch
19-06-08, 05:49 AM
Having personal integrity and a strong code of ethics is not the same thing as seeing the world in absolutes.

Junket
19-06-08, 06:18 AM
And the gears will spin and the sinners sin, but at least we'll give them hell
And the righteous few will spit on you, so bid them all farewell
We're going down, down, down to Mephisto's Cafe
We're going down (Right?) (Right!)

So **** the flocks of sheep that keep amassing masses
Asses being led so far astray
And I won't claim to believe the things I read
Black books or agenda magazine
I'd rather see in shades of gray


Lyrics from one of my favorite songs from my favorite band.

But yes, I'd rather go grey than black and white.

Grey is so much more interesting.

clearskies
19-06-08, 06:21 AM
You know what Frasbee, B&W need a fighter in life... things do not go easy for such people. I also admit that grey means we are more flexible and more capable of solving problems..

Junket
19-06-08, 06:30 AM
You know what Frasbee, B&W need a fighter in life... things do not go easy for such people. I also admit that grey means we are more flexible and more capable of solving problems..

That's why my kind of job often requires. I need to be flexible. I've learned not to be such a perfectionist. Sometimes, "good enough", is good enough. So much time can be wasted trying to make the frivolous things, perfect.

clearskies
19-06-08, 06:43 AM
In my work , I waste alot of time adjusting the page setup, line spacing, font size, bold letters, ...etc BEFORE starting the main document!! that is a way to reach perfectness which consumes a lot of time.. I hope oneday I can be flexible and do 'good enough' jobs.

tooxshort
19-06-08, 08:13 AM
Michael Jackson says, "It don't matter if you're black or white... hee hee!"

Illusional
19-06-08, 09:47 AM
i have lacked to see any racism in this thread. with all this talk about black and white, where the are f*cking yellow people??

*moves along to the asian thread*

raverboy

Mish
19-06-08, 01:05 PM
I don't think I fully understand what a "black and white" and "Gray" types are. I think most people are combination of both (and then some).

If it's a question of certainty and uncertainty I would say that I personally prefer to be certain than uncertain, though being certain can be boring thus some degree of uncertainty is required.

Illusional
19-06-08, 01:13 PM
no one is clearly defined to a certain type. judging people as to being black and white like saying that everyone is either a male or female. and as we all know, there are those in-between ones, and those who you aren't sure what the f*ck they are.

if you don't have an open mind, you're idiotic close mind will only leave you bliss.


raverboy

Lipp
19-06-08, 02:44 PM
I don't think I fully understand what a "black and white" and "Gray" types are. I think most people are combination of both (and then some).

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray


Ethics

* In a moral sense grey is either used
o pejoratively to describe situations that have no clear moral value, or
o positively to balance an all-black or all-white view (for example, shades of grey represent magnitudes of good and bad).


So say for example, if you would ask a person on his or her view on Hitler, you'd get either.

a.) Black and white response - He was evil, and that's that.

b.) Gray response - Much of what he did was cruel, but some of his actions had good reasoning behind it.

At least that's how I interpret it.

Illusional
19-06-08, 04:11 PM
there's nothing wrong with being gray. my grandmother has gray hair.

raverboy

clearskies
19-06-08, 10:51 PM
Hi Lipp, thank you for making things clearer for post readers... that is what we mean , we never talked about colours but how people react...

zoso
20-06-08, 12:28 AM
I'm a person who really loves the gray areas. Some things are just so complex and controversial, it's just ignorant and naive to look at them with a black & white mindset.

But then again, there are other things that shouldn't have a gray area at all. For an extreme example, child pornography.

I try and apply my views realistically to the situation at hand.

boobaa
20-06-08, 12:45 AM
Black and white don't exist- they're constructs to help control freaks think they can always be right, always be in charge.


Ok. But, if person counts another persons positive sides and then negative sides, then constructs his/her opinion with that information wether he/she is dealing with positive or negative person, eg black and white?

Btw I somehow always negleted gray as the generalized outcome of black and white. So for me, more preferred word is colourful, specially since black and white aren't considered real colours.

Sureality
21-12-08, 01:42 AM
"Black and White" people don't exist. It is an illusion to help some people cope with making decisions. Since everything is fluid and changes, what you see as black today could be white tomorrow. If the illusion helps you then use it if not then cast it aside.

londonmoon
21-12-08, 08:55 PM
Personally, i see things in life the way they are. Whatever you see in your eyes is truth absolutely no lies because you already know right from wrong.