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Everlovin
07-01-09, 04:30 AM
I have been here for a little while. Prior to becoming a member, I didn't peruse the forums..though I probably should have.

The essential problem with this forum seems to one of the blind leading the blind. People come here looking for help, many of whom appear to be desperate people who seek general advice to answer their needy-framed questions; "do you think he cheated?", "long distance for eight years and then she dumped me, HELP!" etc.. etc...etc.

Then these people try to offer advice to others.

There are also several members who have been here for three-five years or longer who behave like jaded salty dogs. Rarely do they directly answer the original poster's question. Often they shift the conversation away from the its original topic and instead express their own insecurities as they feel toward the issue at hand. Beleive it or not, this can be humorous to watch at times essentially because these members are funny like children and their soft spots become transparently obvious. Like kids, you can just "push their buttons" and they react. However, the original poster, who has not frequented the forum, is left out of the loop.

Hence, the revolving door of love forum. An online insane asylum...runned by the patients.

Gribble
07-01-09, 05:10 AM
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Every few months we get another "good guy" like yourself. Please, whatever you've got to say, we've heard it before. If you don't like this forum I'm sure there are plenty more out there that will cater to your sensitive feelings. Personally, I'd rather someone tell me I'm a dumbass because XYZ instead of just blowing a lot of empty smoke up my ass. But that's just me.

Everlovin
07-01-09, 05:30 AM
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Every few months we get another "good guy" like yourself. Please, whatever you've got to say, we've heard it before. If you don't like this forum I'm sure there are plenty more out there that will cater to your sensitive feelings. Personally, I'd rather someone tell me I'm a dumbass because XYZ instead of just blowing a lot of empty smoke up my ass. But that's just me.

^ A classic example of a reaction exhibited here on the forum. Notice how this poster projects his/her feelings of sensitivity onto me. Very cute.

Dasein
07-01-09, 07:27 AM
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Every few months we get another "good guy" like yourself. Please, whatever you've got to say, we've heard it before. If you don't like this forum I'm sure there are plenty more out there that will cater to your sensitive feelings. Personally, I'd rather someone tell me I'm a dumbass because XYZ instead of just blowing a lot of empty smoke up my ass. But that's just me.


I don't understand why it isn't acceptable to have some criticism of this forum now and again though. This forum is for new people just as much as the "regulars" and many can feel alienated do to the reaction from some members.

I am not saying that we should pander to the 40 year old men dating 15 year old girls or anything but maybe we should not jump down people's throats so quickly.

Everlovin you forgot to also mention forum mentality. When you have everyone agreeing with one another and then mauling the person who disagrees. Waiting for that now ;)

Indignant
07-01-09, 07:30 AM
i'll be just thanking people who are brave enough to stand up for respectful order of things here. cuz i know i'll be bashed as soon as open my mouth in protest. thank you.

Cain
07-01-09, 07:47 AM
Aren't you the same guy that's leaching off of the government so you can be lazy and not have to work?

Yeah, **** you.

Everlovin
07-01-09, 08:14 AM
Aren't you the same guy that's leaching off of the government so you can be lazy and not have to work?

Yeah, **** you.

Look at this example. Here we have someone who feels bitter with me for other reasons, so instead of staying on the topic he becomes angry and dismisses it altogether.

ecojeanne
07-01-09, 08:28 AM
lol i have to agree with ya everlovin, for newbies it can be disheartening and they move on unfortunately. but as gribble says you don't have to stay or take the advice, there are tonns of other forums out there, but i do find this forum to be great fun at times and has me lmao, its not so serious all the time and i do think the people that need help do get some pretty good advice from some of the members. but at the end of the day they are not counselors and not trained to give advice however they have seen the same issues come up again and again and tend to know what the score is.

vashti
07-01-09, 09:28 AM
Aren't you the same guy that's leaching off of the government so you can be lazy and not have to work?

Yeah, **** you.

I'm taking the NCLEX in a couple of weeks.

Cain
07-01-09, 09:30 AM
I'm taking the NCLEX in a couple of weeks.

Very nice. The best of luck to you.

Junket
07-01-09, 09:33 AM
That's not what's wrong with this forum.

That's everything that is right with this forum!

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 09:37 AM
Yeah, that's how it is here. What can you do about it though?

vashti
07-01-09, 09:57 AM
Very nice. The best of luck to you.

Thank you.

What kind of car do you drive?

Cain
07-01-09, 10:17 AM
Thank you.

What kind of car do you drive?

Cavalier.

Wanna hop in the back seat with me?

Aeradalia
07-01-09, 10:50 AM
blind leading the blind.
Then these people try to offer advice to others.
three-five years or longer who behave like jaded salty dogs.
Often they shift the conversation away from the its original topic and instead express their own insecurities as they feel toward the issue at hand.
An online insane asylum...runned by the patients.


Yes this forum is full of people who have problems in certain situations... but they also have valuable experience in other situations.

I've read some of the advice given by those that were 'wrong.' However, the other posters make it a point to not only warn the OP that this person is wrong but to demonstrate why - break it down for the OP.

And while one person watches their 'bridges burn' they can at the very least warn another to 'not do the same things I have done.' So this is valuable too.

The only problem with this forum... really... is that you have to look a little harder to find those valuable tidbits of information... often 'reading between the lines' to find it. But I, for one, have learned so much from those that are knowledgeable and even from those that are fooling themselves.

Of all the places I have visited... this forum is by far the most useful because of all the raw information it offers - so many different views to any given scenario. Its a collection of shared experiences that you can filter through and find answers to your questions... and even learn something new - see from a perspective you never though about before... impossible to do in the linear Q/A method.

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 10:59 AM
Thanks for your very insightful feedback, Everclear.

How's the job search going?

Dasein
07-01-09, 11:26 AM
Yes this forum is full of people who have problems in certain situations... but they also have valuable experience in other situations.

I've read some of the advice given by those that were 'wrong.' However, the other posters make it a point to not only warn the OP that this person is wrong but to demonstrate why - break it down for the OP.

And while one person watches their 'bridges burn' they can at the very least warn another to 'not do the same things I have done.' So this is valuable too.

The only problem with this forum... really... is that you have to look a little harder to find those valuable tidbits of information... often 'reading between the lines' to find it. But I, for one, have learned so much from those that are knowledgeable and even from those that are fooling themselves.

Of all the places I have visited... this forum is by far the most useful because of all the raw information it offers - so many different views to any given scenario. Its a collection of shared experiences that you can filter through and find answers to your questions... and even learn something new - see from a perspective you never though about before... impossible to do in the linear Q/A method.



That's a suck up if I have ever seen one.

Aeradalia
07-01-09, 11:28 AM
That's a suck up if I have ever seen one.


This is how I view things... honestly.

If you don't believe me... it's not my problem...

Cause I don't suck up to anyone, I tell it how I see it...

Gribble
07-01-09, 11:33 AM
That's a suck up if I have ever seen one.

As I said, if you don't like it here there are other forums out there. You must be the sort of person who writes the radio station because some shock jock offended you and you want him off the air. Turn the channel.

Illusional
07-01-09, 11:36 AM
you're probably referring to one of the assholes that lurk around the forum as a member like myself... but the sad truth of everything is that i have a fetish teasing other people. i respect your opinion, but now you can respect mine.

raverboy

Everlovin
07-01-09, 11:42 AM
Thanks for your very insightful feedback, Everclear.

How's the job search going?

No problem thank you for listening. Going good, moving along in the process.

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 11:47 AM
Oh, that's terrific Everlovin. Well, I hope that people here decide to follow your mature example and take responsibility for themselves and their actions.

misombra
07-01-09, 11:48 AM
you know what i consider a problem? cops. they are a major problem.

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 11:50 AM
Yes, I think that Everlovin, with all his policing experience is the perfect person to be policing the forum for us, don't you think?

I can't tell you how much I appreciate your feedback Everlovin. Really, I can't.

Charlie Boy II
07-01-09, 11:51 AM
Everlovin has stung me with his harsh insights. I feel so sad.

vashti
07-01-09, 11:58 AM
Who cares what he thinks? Let's change the subject.

misombra
07-01-09, 12:00 PM
i just spent the weekend on a horse/cattle ranch up in the northern mountains. it was awesome. i want to move up there.

a bald eagle flew right past me, as if to tell me that that was where i supposed to be.

vashti
07-01-09, 12:03 PM
The canyons are beginning to sprout green grass where I live. It's beautiful.

Illusional
07-01-09, 12:05 PM
dammit people... when did the focus of attention switch from me?? to some other loser??

raverboy

misombra
07-01-09, 12:07 PM
The canyons are beginning to sprout green grass where I live. It's beautiful.

really? the canyons here are white with snow. glaciers.

canyons are one of my most favorite things in all the world.

Illusional
07-01-09, 12:10 PM
Look at this example. Here we have someone who feels bitter with me for other reasons, so instead of staying on the topic he becomes angry and dismisses it altogether.

ok, now that we've declared cain to be an outright asshole, let's get back to the other matter at hand. are you still leaching off my tax dollars??

raverboy

Dasein
07-01-09, 12:20 PM
As I said, if you don't like it here there are other forums out there. You must be the sort of person who writes the radio station because some shock jock offended you and you want him off the air. Turn the channel.


I never said I didn't like LF and I DO go to other forums. It has highlighted the consistency of forum mentality to me. There are very few forums where people are completely objective and not influenced by the opinions of other posters.

Sometimes it feels like an online high school. Where there is the cool group that everyone is dying to impress (usually the regulars).

Once again don't get me wrong I like this forum but it doesn't stop me critiquing it.

Charlie Boy II
07-01-09, 12:23 PM
LF has a cool group?! haha. And people are "dying to impress" this group? you're not serious...

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 12:27 PM
OMG! I am part of a cool group?? Wow, first time ever!

This really chokes me up. *sniff*

misombra
07-01-09, 12:31 PM
i'm the leader of the cool group.

i'm also the leader of the hot group.

Aeradalia
07-01-09, 12:35 PM
A cool group? Online high school?

Does this mean I have to be the outcast again?

Oh shit... :P

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 12:37 PM
LOL.

YouTube - Coolio- Gangster's Paradise

vashti
07-01-09, 01:02 PM
Who exactly is in the "cool" group? Maybe I want to be the break-away rebel group leader.

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 01:05 PM
NOT Everlovin.

Cain
07-01-09, 01:43 PM
I never said I didn't like LF and I DO go to other forums. It has highlighted the consistency of forum mentality to me. There are very few forums where people are completely objective and not influenced by the opinions of other posters.

Sometimes it feels like an online high school. Where there is the cool group that everyone is dying to impress (usually the regulars).

Once again don't get me wrong I like this forum but it doesn't stop me critiquing it.

I don't try to impress anyone. Pay attention to my posts. I don't discriminate in my hateful comments. Indi is a regular here and I've called her a stuck up, snotty bitch before.

I speak my mind. I say what I want to say regardless of what others think about it. I've had heated arguments with most regulars on this forum.

vashti
07-01-09, 01:44 PM
If you try calling me snotty and stuck-up, I will bitch-slap you in to next week. :)

(Bitch is okay, though.)

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 01:49 PM
A cool group? Online high school?

Does this mean I have to be the outcast again?

Oh shit... :P

Yea... me too :P

Cain
07-01-09, 01:52 PM
If you try calling me snotty and stuck-up, I will bitch-slap you in to next week. :)

(Bitch is okay, though.)

You keep teasing me with these kinky acts and I'm going to have to take you up on your offer.

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 01:57 PM
If you try calling me snotty and stuck-up, I will bitch-slap you in to next week. :)

(Bitch is okay, though.)

Bitsch queen!

Or was that Starbie? :D

Gribble
07-01-09, 02:07 PM
Nawh. I think Starbuck was dubbed our resident cougar.

Anyway, I'm totally in the cool group.

http://debfernon.com/media/2/20070423-TheFonze.jpg

Cain
07-01-09, 02:10 PM
As long as you jump a shark tank wearing a leather jacket.

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 02:23 PM
Nawh. I think Starbuck was dubbed our resident cougar.

Yeah, and if Carl stays long enough, he has potential to be the forum manther :D

Aeradalia
07-01-09, 02:33 PM
I'll just resume my old ways... mingle between the groups but not a member of any...

alas... the lowly drifter... :tough:

Dasein
07-01-09, 02:57 PM
I stand by what I said.

I don't really care if people agree with me or not. I am expecting not because the forum mentality on this particular thread is to do a character assassination on the OP rather than look at the topic at hand. No one wants to look at the topic at hand because most are regular posters.

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 03:10 PM
I stand by what I said.

I don't really care if people agree with me or not. I am expecting not because the forum mentality on this particular thread is to do a character assassination on the OP rather than look at the topic at hand. No one wants to look at the topic at hand because most are regular posters.

Well you know, I used to think the same way Dasein.

My understanding of it, is that regulars on forums just respond to posters old and new the way everyone else would; what they think is right. I mean yeah, you get the occasional overly ridiculous, hard-to-believe situation on here (feces fetish for one) where things get horribly off topic, but what do you expect? The internet is virtually an anarchistic hell hole to begin with. Before you go complaining about how members of a forum chuckle about silly topics, you might want to take a good look at all the beastiality porn and pedophilia that happens on and through the internet.

The bottom line: people come here for advice, expecting all the answers they want to hear to be packed into a neat little paragraph. They find out that they have to be considerate and open-minded to everyone else's opinions and judgment, get frustrated and leave - they still get what they're asking for, they just find out that it's not really something they want.

Charlie Boy II
07-01-09, 03:25 PM
I stand by what I said.

I don't really care if people agree with me or not. I am expecting not because the forum mentality on this particular thread is to do a character assassination on the OP rather than look at the topic at hand. No one wants to look at the topic at hand because most are regular posters.

Well maybe if you explain your position a bit more.

But I mean, we have arguments on every thread. Regulars are always bickering/disagreeing with each other. So how does that explain a forum mentality?

It is true that some people might gang up on a particular issue, but they're bonded by their agreement, not out some alliance to a forum clique. On the next thread the same group that argued together on one point may take opposing views on another.

The poster in this thread is mostly just trying to be provocative, I think.

Cain
07-01-09, 03:57 PM
I stand by what I said.

I don't really care if people agree with me or not. I am expecting not because the forum mentality on this particular thread is to do a character assassination on the OP rather than look at the topic at hand. No one wants to look at the topic at hand because most are regular posters.

What have you not gotten? The same posters you say gang up on others are the same ones that have disagreed with others in the past. Vash and Indi usually agree, but they've gotten into heated arguments as well.

It's the pansy ass whiners like you and the OP that irritate me. Why the **** does it matter? It's an internet forum. Do the words posted here really affect your life that much?

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 03:57 PM
I don't try to impress anyone. Pay attention to my posts. I don't discriminate in my hateful comments. Indi is a regular here and I've called her a stuck up, snotty bitch before.

Well, that's okay, we know your judgment is suspect, Cain. I love you anyway. ;)

Heeeeeewwwhhh! Fight is ON! Bend over, because my newspaper is ready for you baby! :D

LadieNisha4u2nv
07-01-09, 04:03 PM
Well maybe if you explain your position a bit more.

But I mean, we have arguments on every thread. Regulars are always bickering/disagreeing with each other. So how does that explain a forum mentality?

It is true that some people might gang up on a particular issue, but they're bonded by their agreement, not out some alliance to a forum clique. On the next thread the same group that argued together on one point may take opposing views on another.

The poster in this thread is mostly just trying to be provocative, I think.

So true. I remember when me and Frasbee got in an arguement, and 1aj told him even though he was his bro, he couldnt believe how he was acting(Gosh, is that the onyl example I could think of? lol). But yea, I know if I gang up on someone its cuz I agree with the person who is arguing with the other person who I dont agree with. Alliance? LOL. Shit sounds like I'm watching those reality game shows where they form alliances to go against other people.

It's really not that serious. Besides, if it bothers you this much, then why keep typing in www.loveforum.net in your web box? You arent obligated to be here you know.

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 04:05 PM
Heeeeeewwwhhh! Fight is ON! Bend over, because my newspaper is ready for you baby! :D

600,000 black and white lines, and colored photos, hot off the press for his monkey ass!

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 04:05 PM
So true. I remember when me and Frasbee got in an arguement, and 1aj told him even though he was his bro, he couldnt believe how he was acting(Gosh, is that the onyl example I could think of? lol). But yea, I know if I gang up on someone its cuz I agree with the person who is arguing with the other person who I dont agree with. Alliance? LOL. Shit sounds like I'm watching those reality game shows where they form alliances to go against other people.

It's really not that serious. Besides, if it bothers you this much, then why keep typing in www.loveforum.net in your web box? You arent obligated to be here you know.

That's the point of a forum like this. We are supposed to give our differing opinions. If everyone said the same thing, it would be damn useless, wouldn't it?

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 04:08 PM
That's the point of a forum like this. We are supposed to give our differing opinions. If everyone said the same thing, it would be damn useless, wouldn't it?

Yeah it would be pointless!

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 04:22 PM
Yeah it would be pointless!

At least until LoveAdmin figures out how to connect your returns to a bottle of booze connected to this forum, anyway. That would definitely make a point.

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 04:23 PM
Like those tubes at the bank, but instead of giving you money, Loveadmin would send you a beer?

Me likies :D

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 04:24 PM
I'd even be prepared to connect my own booze at this point. Like a beer hat.

Aeradalia
07-01-09, 04:30 PM
Is it just me or has this discussion degraded into the ridiculous?

Dasein... if you don't like the 'mentality' of the forum... you are not obligated to remain... This is one of those things that you take it 'as is' or you move on... kind of like a used car.

Waiting for a bunch of people to act in a manner you want is wasting time. Just like any other situation in life... you either like how people act or you don't... beyond that, there's not much else you can do.

doppelgaenger
07-01-09, 04:35 PM
Is it just me or has this discussion degraded into the ridiculous?

Well, all topics here are ridiculous.

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 04:35 PM
We thread-jacked it on purpose, Dalia. You are spoiling it, babe. Post something off-topic or else. ;)

Aeradalia
07-01-09, 04:42 PM
We thread-jacked it on purpose, Dalia. You are spoiling it, babe. Post something off-topic or else. ;)


I got laid the other night... and it was GREAT!

Ah... life is grand.. ;)

(Though the 'Canadian Bacon' jokes from friends and family is starting to get kind of old... )

Cain
07-01-09, 06:20 PM
Well, that's okay, we know your judgment is suspect, Cain. I love you anyway. ;)

Heeeeeewwwhhh! Fight is ON! Bend over, because my newspaper is ready for you baby! :D

And me allowing you to spank me in some kinky fashion would just help with the perception that my judgment is suspect.

Cain
07-01-09, 06:23 PM
I got laid the other night... and it was GREAT!

Ah... life is grand.. ;)

(Though the 'Canadian Bacon' jokes from friends and family is starting to get kind of old... )

Let me know when you want to bring in another girl and we could have some fun!*



*Picture required or offer is void.

Dasein
07-01-09, 06:50 PM
Well maybe if you explain your position a bit more.

But I mean, we have arguments on every thread. Regulars are always bickering/disagreeing with each other. So how does that explain a forum mentality?

It is true that some people might gang up on a particular issue, but they're bonded by their agreement, not out some alliance to a forum clique. On the next thread the same group that argued together on one point may take opposing views on another.

The poster in this thread is mostly just trying to be provocative, I think.


He may well be trying to be provocative.

Think about this thread as an example. I am sure there are people who agree with what I am saying but are specifically staying out of this thread because the consensus is disagreeing. It becomes an all out attack on one person. In this instance it is me who is being singled out because I think this place is a bit harsh on new people seeking advice. I don't know how many times Eco has been the brunt on an all out attack as well.

Sure I understand "tough love" but tough love isn't effective for a lot of people. People come here for advice, not to be constantly criticised.

While we are on this subject I think Cain said that I am a whiner..can't be bothered getting the quote. I have never complained before on this forum in any threads AT ALL.

Now I will wait for the myriad of responses telling me how wrong I am. This is the way it works..does it not? The cheese stand alone.

Aeradalia
07-01-09, 06:55 PM
Let me know when you want to bring in another girl and we could have some fun!*



*Picture required or offer is void.



Still 'shopping' for a girl to share in a little ménage à trois. Since we both have similar tastes in women... shouldn't take too long...

Though at this rate... we may have to wait until after he returns from Iraq... :(

But it could make for one hell of a welcome home gift! :D

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 07:03 PM
And me allowing you to spank me in some kinky fashion would just help with the perception that my judgment is suspect.

True. But turning me down would also make your judgment suspect. So you can't win.

But wait. Does manipulating your puny brain like that make me a, what was it again, "snooty stuck up bitch" or something? :D

Aeradalia
07-01-09, 07:10 PM
True. But turning me down would also make your judgment suspect. So you can't win.

But wait. Does manipulating your puny brain like that make me a, what was it again, "snooty stuck up bitch" or something? :D


This is a loaded question if ever I saw one... :horror:

IndiReloaded
07-01-09, 07:28 PM
Its okay, Dalia. No UN peacekeeping forces required. Cain knows who holds the nukes. ;)

Junket
07-01-09, 08:06 PM
People come here for advice, not to be constantly criticised.

Christ, this ain't a job, it's recreation.

But start giving more advice if it makes you feel better.

Charlie Boy II
07-01-09, 08:16 PM
Think about this thread as an example. I am sure there are people who agree with what I am saying but are specifically staying out of this thread because the consensus is disagreeing. It becomes an all out attack on one person. In this instance it is me who is being singled out because I think this place is a bit harsh on new people seeking advice. I don't know how many times Eco has been the brunt on an all out attack as well.

Sure I understand "tough love" but tough love isn't effective for a lot of people. People come here for advice, not to be constantly criticised.


I really don't think there's anyone too cowed to give their opinion. It is an internet forum after all. Not a workplace or a social group. There is no real risk in going against the grain. That's why I laugh when people boast about how they "speak their minds" - on a bloody forum.

The reason Eco copped so much flak is because she went through a stage of propounding irritatingly moronic and half-baked ideas and debating their merits to the bitter end. furthermore, I am sure she got a perverse pleasure out of provoking the forum members and on some level she was doing it deliberately.

It's true that the regulars interact with a sense of familiarity with one another, that may not extend to newcomers. But that's to be expected, surely.

squirrley
07-01-09, 09:11 PM
I saw this new thread and wondered where everyone was and why no one was jumping on it. I got up this morning and laughed my ass off!

So, Kyle is here with us on vacation. It's been great! Everyone is gettin along so well. The three of us are going over to Universal and Islands of Adventure tonight. It feels so great to be a family again.

Its funny cause I read the threads everyday but I feel like Ive posted to the same things for so long I just dont do it anymore. But its nice to read up on what everyones doing!

Indignant
08-01-09, 01:15 AM
Who cares what he thinks? Let's change the subject.

how disrespectful and rude.

Indignant
08-01-09, 01:17 AM
Well, all topics here are ridiculous.

most posters here are ridiculous. therefore the topics. not you though doppel.

Cain
08-01-09, 03:48 AM
True. But turning me down would also make your judgment suspect. So you can't win.

But wait. Does manipulating your puny brain like that make me a, what was it again, "snooty stuck up bitch" or something? :D

Awh, that's so cute! You actually think you can manipulate me.

Cain
08-01-09, 03:51 AM
He may well be trying to be provocative.

Think about this thread as an example. I am sure there are people who agree with what I am saying but are specifically staying out of this thread because the consensus is disagreeing. It becomes an all out attack on one person. In this instance it is me who is being singled out because I think this place is a bit harsh on new people seeking advice. I don't know how many times Eco has been the brunt on an all out attack as well.

Sure I understand "tough love" but tough love isn't effective for a lot of people. People come here for advice, not to be constantly criticised.

While we are on this subject I think Cain said that I am a whiner..can't be bothered getting the quote. I have never complained before on this forum in any threads AT ALL.

Now I will wait for the myriad of responses telling me how wrong I am. This is the way it works..does it not? The cheese stand alone.

I'll disagree with this too.

What do you not understand? Any time we all agree on something, it's not because we're in some clique. It's because we all think that response is the right one. We argue all the time. I remember when most of my theories on things disagreed with most of the posters here. They had no problem arguing my opinions with me. Everyone deals with negative comments here. It's just thin skinned people like you that make the negativity so much more orgasmic.

Cain
08-01-09, 03:51 AM
most posters here are ridiculous. therefore the topics. not you though doppel.

How does doppel's ass taste?

Indignant
08-01-09, 03:52 AM
How does doppel's ass taste?

smells like roses tastes like chicken

Dasein
08-01-09, 06:51 AM
Is it just me or has this discussion degraded into the ridiculous?

Dasein... if you don't like the 'mentality' of the forum... you are not obligated to remain... This is one of those things that you take it 'as is' or you move on... kind of like a used car.

Waiting for a bunch of people to act in a manner you want is wasting time. Just like any other situation in life... you either like how people act or you don't... beyond that, there's not much else you can do.

Dalia this is just ridiculous. So basically what you are saying is that if you level criticism towards anything you should just leave.

So according to this if I have some criticism against my workplace I should just leave rather than discussing it to find a solution. Or if you level criticism towards the President you should just leave America?

I like discussing things and I am not afraid to discuss the good and bad elements. I don't just opt out because it is more convenient and that you can't change anything.




I'll disagree with this too.

What do you not understand? Any time we all agree on something, it's not because we're in some clique. It's because we all think that response is the right one. We argue all the time. I remember when most of my theories on things disagreed with most of the posters here. They had no problem arguing my opinions with me. Everyone deals with negative comments here. It's just thin skinned people like you that make the negativity so much more orgasmic.


No Cain it is YOU who is lacking understanding here. I am specifically talking about new posters who come to love forum who get a heard time..got that? I will spell it out slowly so you can understand...N E W P O S T E R S.

They do not understand the dynamic of the regular posters so therefore do not understand cutting comments which you may find acceptable.

I gave a quick example regarding this thread and the wave of opinion because it was convenient. I could trace through some new posters threads and see how they get treated at times.

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 06:59 AM
Awh, that's so cute! You actually think you can manipulate me.

I did, I got a response. But only so that you would call me 'cute'. I need your validation in my life. ;)

Junket
08-01-09, 07:02 AM
You know what's awesome about this forum?

The spam control.

Ain't it grand?

EDIT Also Dasein, why don't you help out with this fellow: http://www.loveforum.net/ask-female-forum/26728-not-sure-forum-post-its-both-sexes.html#post409568 He's thick in the head, maybe you can soften him up.

LadieNisha4u2nv
08-01-09, 08:07 AM
smells like roses tastes like chicken

IIII know you like to think
Your shit dont stink
But lean a little bit closer see
Roses really smell like Ooo Ooo Ooo
Yeaaaa Roses really smell like Ooo ooo ooo

Aeradalia
08-01-09, 10:18 AM
Dalia this is just ridiculous. So basically what you are saying is that if you level criticism towards anything you should just leave.

I like discussing things and I am not afraid to discuss the good and bad elements. I don't just opt out because it is more convenient and that you can't change anything.


An animal is a piece of meat that does tricks??? Well I am quite happy to not continue any discourse with you. You have displayed a total ignorance that is barely comprehendable. Now it isn't just an assumption. It has been confirmed.

You have before... Once you found my viewpoint to be different from yours you never did return to this thread. So much for 'talking it out.'

And even in this thread in which you so quickly dismissed me in... I wasn't inclined to suck up then... and neither was I inclined to suck up before and after you made this comment either:


That's a suck up if I have ever seen one.


Dasein... get the facts straight, especially about yourself first... I'm sure the new posters will be just fine... they're big boys and girls and can figure out new places without having someone hold their hands... I know it took me almost no time to figure this forum out.

Get some thicker skin... will ya? Your petulant whining isn't musical or helpful in any way...

Dasein
08-01-09, 10:47 AM
You have before... Once you found my viewpoint to be different from yours you never did return to this thread. So much for 'talking it out.'

And even in this thread in which you so quickly dismissed me in... I wasn't inclined to suck up then... and neither was I inclined to suck up before and after you made this comment either:




Dasein... get the facts straight, especially about yourself first... I'm sure the new posters will be just fine... they're big boys and girls and can figure out new places without having someone hold their hands... I know it took me almost no time to figure this forum out.

Get some thicker skin... will ya? Your petulant whining isn't musical or helpful in any way...


Dalia..if you are referring to the thread where you said animals were meat that do tricks I said my piece to you. You obviously weren't going to change your view point so I don't see much point in banging on to a brick wall.

Also the reason why I didn't add anything further to that thread was because I felt that other posters adequately expressed what I had to say. How can I reason with some twat who thinks animals are bit of meat..I mean come on..you aren't too bright are you?

You know what? If you think I am petulant whiner you don't have to read my posts or respond to my posts. It is a FORUM after all..like you keep saying.

Lastly I am not posting in the advice section. When I do you can feel free to give me some. Until then you can keep it to yourself.

Nuff said

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 11:02 AM
Holy cow. This is the watercooler area. Almost as bad as the 'Talk Shit' thread, which is why it was made.

The forum is policed by mods. If its that big an issue just PM one: Frasbee, Giga, Misombra, Squirrley, Kiechi are the ones I've seen on here most regularly.

Mish
08-01-09, 11:30 AM
Hence, the revolving door of love forum. An online insane asylum...runned by the patients.

Wow, Everlovin! What an eye opener!

And since you are a very concerned and obviously good natured, mature individual (definitely not part of an insane asylum) here's an advice how you can solve such a terrible problem.

You purchase a domain name and your own servers on which you setup a forum. You give it a funky name and then spend a lot of money on advertising it. You hire professional counselors who had been in the industry for a very long time and you pay them by the hour for answering questions of distressed individuals who will not contribute monetarily in return. Of course you will also pay for the monitoring that will make sure that feedback of these counselors are nothing but top notch. You then use the popularity and effectiveness of your wonderful wonderful forum to draw people away from insane asylums littering the internet.

Since you are such a mature and responsible person, much better than anyone else here its basically your duty to do this and nothing else. Now that you know how to resolve this horrible issue, go out and do it. Best of luck, keep us updated :)

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 11:31 AM
Hey when was the last time Everlovin posted in this thread?

Illusional
08-01-09, 11:35 AM
Who exactly is in the "cool" group? Maybe I want to be the break-away rebel group leader.

too late... i already took over that stole that position from you after you put out.

ahem... did you forget that this is a "highschool clic type" of forum so you can't expect us to have a long attention span.

raverboy

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 11:40 AM
ahem... did you forget that this is a "highschool clic type" of forum so you can't expect us to have a long attention span.


+1 Is what I'm reliving from my missed childhood. :D

Mish
08-01-09, 11:45 AM
Hey when was the last time Everlovin posted in this thread?

I think as soon as he realized that he's a much better person than everyone else and probably got held up worshiping that great individual at the nearest mirror.

I think it's really sad that there are people out there who generalize and attacks a whole group of people with all of their differences of opinion, faults and admirable qualities, just because a few people from that group disagreed with them. Everlovin doesn't contribute to anything himself, all he does is criticize. He doesn't even complain which could be seen as genuine provided he didn't attack people and offered constructive criticism as well as practical solutions how issues can be resolved. He is a genuine part of problem, not part of a solution.

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 11:50 AM
So, why is this thread still being discussed then? Who gives a crap?

Illusional
08-01-09, 11:59 AM
+1 Is what I'm reliving from my missed childhood. :D

*gives you his lunch ticket*

there you go, doesn't that bring back memories?

raverboy

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 12:03 PM
I knew you were a nice guy, Raver.

But... don't have to blow you back behind the school later, or something? ;)

Junket
08-01-09, 12:25 PM
Wow, Everlovin! What an eye opener!

And since you are a very concerned and obviously good natured, mature individual (definitely not part of an insane asylum) here's an advice how you can solve such a terrible problem.

You purchase a domain name and your own servers on which you setup a forum. You give it a funky name and then spend a lot of money on advertising it. You hire professional counselors who had been in the industry for a very long time and you pay them by the hour for answering questions of distressed individuals who will not contribute monetarily in return. Of course you will also pay for the monitoring that will make sure that feedback of these counselors are nothing but top notch. You then use the popularity and effectiveness of your wonderful wonderful forum to draw people away from insane asylums littering the internet.

Since you are such a mature and responsible person, much better than anyone else here its basically your duty to do this and nothing else. Now that you know how to resolve this horrible issue, go out and do it. Best of luck, keep us updated :)

I agree!

Maybe then these cunts would stop bitching about all this bullshit and let me get back to posting about how cool my new work radio is.

Illusional
08-01-09, 12:36 PM
I knew you were a nice guy, Raver.

But... don't have to blow you back behind the school later, or something? ;)

i nice peck on the cheek will be fine. we are still in high school, remember?

raverboy

Everlovin
08-01-09, 01:05 PM
most posters here are ridiculous.

I'd have to agree and since they seem to be having such a fun time being little children I will now humbly bow out and allow them to do so.

They deserve to have some fun..after all it is their hard work that funds my snowboarding trip tommorow. Speaking of which I need to get some sleep, I am leaving early.

Aeradalia
08-01-09, 01:07 PM
You know what? If you think I am petulant whiner you don't have to read my posts or respond to my posts. It is a FORUM after all..like you keep saying.

Lastly I am not posting in the advice section. When I do you can feel free to give me some. Until then you can keep it to yourself.




Dasein I am here to happily offer my services to those that want to vent... even if that means you...

Besides I can't stand to see a woman angry... Bad day at work?

Cain
08-01-09, 01:13 PM
I'd have to agree and since they seem to be having such a fun time being little children I will now humbly bow out and allow them to do so.

They deserve to have some fun..after all it is their hard work that funds my snowboarding trip tommorow. Speaking of which I need to get some sleep, I am leaving early.

Karma's a bitch.

Just remember that no woman wants a pansy ass that can't hold a job.

Mish
08-01-09, 01:27 PM
I'm not crazy everyone else is

You keep on thinking that

doppelgaenger
08-01-09, 01:29 PM
I'd have to agree and since they seem to be having such a fun time being little children I will now humbly bow out and allow them to do so.

They deserve to have some fun..after all it is their hard work that funds my snowboarding trip tommorow. Speaking of which I need to get some sleep, I am leaving early.

Hahahaha! What are you going to snowboard on? A trashcan lid?

Get a job you bum.

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 01:42 PM
i nice peck on the cheek will be fine. we are still in high school, remember?

*giggles*

*giggles again*
(post length)

doppelgaenger
08-01-09, 01:46 PM
Is Indi's hymen back in tact? :P

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 01:51 PM
For the right price it is.

doppelgaenger
08-01-09, 01:52 PM
Good thing I wasn't sipping water when I read that. :D

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 02:55 PM
*sigh*

Everlovin, what I hate about ppl like you is that you gripe but don't offer anything useful by way of solution.

Anyway, perhaps you are right. I was only being mildly facetious with my 'feedback' comment.

So, since there are at least a few ppl here who think a subsection of the forum is "too hard" on some sensitive psyches, perhaps we can create a subsection specifically for them. We can call it the 'Advice for Pussies Only' section or something. ;)

...

Actually, I was thinking of a 'For Sensitive Psyches Only' subforum, with a sticky that explicitly states NO bashing of the OP is allowed. That those ready for 'straight shooting' answers should post in the General Forum.

Will that suffice?

Illusional
08-01-09, 03:09 PM
I'd have to agree and since they seem to be having such a fun time being little children I will now humbly bow out and allow them to do so.

They deserve to have some fun..after all it is their hard work that funds my snowboarding trip tommorow. Speaking of which I need to get some sleep, I am leaving early.

it's funny because i just came back from snowboarding, therefore i must also have worked very hard for my trip. no my mommy and daddy didn't pay for it, i sold my ass on ebay to make ends meet.

anyways, back to what really matters... who do i have to beat up so i can steal another lunch ticket??

raverboy

Gribble
08-01-09, 03:29 PM
My problem with this forum lies in the fact that a troll attempts to egg us on and we give him eight pages of ego-stoking crap. I'm sure he's getting a real kick out of this thread.

Illusional
08-01-09, 03:34 PM
wowwieeee... look at all those thanks. i'm jealous. well....not really.

raverboy

IndiReloaded
08-01-09, 03:40 PM
I know, Grib. But this isn't the first time this complaint has been made and other posters, like Dasein, who I think quite reasonable and some others agree.

We have a subforum for the guys and gals. A crybaby subsection isn't that much of a concession. If ppl complain about the replies they get, they get directed to post there, instead of getting sent (or chased off) to an entirely new forum, which defeats some of LoveAdmins goals.

Anyway, its not up to me. Just a suggestion so we can move on.

Cbrider
08-01-09, 05:33 PM
I don't think these things are really "problems" with this forum.

I generally find the forum very useful and practical. People here aren't going to sugar coat it or dance around an answer to save you some tears, they tell it how it is.

These are real PEOPLE here, not an electronic database, everything is view post by post and assessed in the same way. You can't come to a forum, then have a problem with opinions, its like going on a safari then realizing you're a strong proponent for anti-gun laws.

The people here are real, the answers are real. We're going to be off color, wrong and conflicting from time to time because we are real.

TheTooya
08-01-09, 09:13 PM
I generally find the forum very useful and practical. People here aren't going to sugar coat it or dance around an answer to save you some tears, they tell it how it is.


I whole-heartedly agree. I originally came here asking for advice around August, which I got very direct responses (which I followed through...), and since then I have stuck with this forum, offering what (little) advice I can here and there.

The difference between this forum and other forums I've been to, is the focus is on our life experiences, and our views on living our lives. Someone posts a topic, pouring their life out there, and others respond with their life experiences, giving what they think is the right advice.

The people who post a problem, but defensively argue their opinion are a pain in the ass to watch.... but... c'est la vie "/

yegdulps
09-01-09, 12:08 AM
I'm pretty new here, but I'd have to agree that a fair bit of the time instead of answering questions people just try to be funny.
It can be a little frustrating because in my opinion, threads that have great potential can be completely derailed by someone posting "You love cock!" or something like it.

I would definitely become a forum regular but because this behaviour is tolerated or possibly even encouraged I'm not 100% sure that I will.

lovesjoyajm
09-01-09, 12:40 AM
The crybaby forum is a good idea, except I don't think anyone would post any replies.

The people that would post there are the ones that need a smack on the ass.


I would definitely become a forum regular but because this behaviour is tolerated or possibly even encouraged I'm not 100% sure that I will.

Actually, threads usually don't get derailed immediately - it's only after some legitimate advice has been given. (Well, we think it's legitimate, the original poster often doesn't because it doesn't tell him what he wants to know.) The nice thing is that when, like me, you like to post whiny venting threads just to let off steam, people know to just ignore them, but when you have a legitimate problem, people respond accordingly.

Gribble
09-01-09, 01:17 AM
I know, Grib. But this isn't the first time this complaint has been made and other posters, like Dasein, who I think quite reasonable and some others agree.

We have a subforum for the guys and gals. A crybaby subsection isn't that much of a concession. If ppl complain about the replies they get, they get directed to post there, instead of getting sent (or chased off) to an entirely new forum, which defeats some of LoveAdmins goals.

Anyway, its not up to me. Just a suggestion so we can move on.

One problem immediately jumps to mind. If a 45 year old deadbeat turns up in that sanctuary to ask for relationship advice regarding his 15 year old lover I'm not going to be able to contain myself. And as sad as it is, you know that crap is all too common on this forum.

ecojeanne
09-01-09, 02:25 AM
it's true, i do have many (whats considered crazy) ideas and also need the last word, it's an illness i have sometimes, i did enjoy it and everyone knew that, i have to say tho whenever i saw newbies getting a harsh time of it (which is quite a common occurrence) i always have my say, and anytime i had a strong opinion i always expressed it and still will. it always makes me laugh when there's a fight on, it becomes about who can come up with the smartarse answer quicker, completely childish i know but has indeed helped me get thru getting over my ex. i feel attached to it because of that. i think everyone had fun berating my opinions so it’s all good as far as i'm concerned.

i will always stand up for newbies when i see they are getting a hard time. being here is not about taking other people's comments seriously after-all this is the internet and no-one here knows each other well enough to take real serious offense.

a forum is like any society imo, there will always be people who stick by one another and who tend to have the same opinions, it's a fact of life and can be unfair when other people on their own are ganged up on for having a different opinion. But at the end of the day it’s the internet. I find the regulars give some absolutely great advice too.

Cain
09-01-09, 04:49 AM
I'm pretty new here, but I'd have to agree that a fair bit of the time instead of answering questions people just try to be funny.
It can be a little frustrating because in my opinion, threads that have great potential can be completely derailed by someone posting "You love cock!" or something like it.

I would definitely become a forum regular but because this behaviour is tolerated or possibly even encouraged I'm not 100% sure that I will.

Really? People are posting this? Where?

I don't know about everyone else, but I generally reply to the OP. No one ever complains that I'm not answering the OP. The complaints I receive are that I'm too mean.

Indignant
09-01-09, 05:11 AM
if i ever need any serious advice i usually would go to the following people for it in that particular order: Misha, Eco, Indi, Vashti.

everyone else is a joke, no offense. I mean their opinions are purely for entertainment purposes.

doppelgaenger
09-01-09, 05:21 AM
if i ever need any serious advice i usually would go to the following people for it in that particular order: Misha, Eco, Indi, Vashti.

everyone else is a joke, no offense. I mean their opinions are purely for entertainment purposes.

Ehh? Ehhhh?
:oriental:

Indignant
09-01-09, 05:30 AM
Ehh? Ehhhh?
:oriental:

there should a be a certain level of intelligence or experience to give out a competent advice.

Junket
09-01-09, 05:55 AM
if i ever need any serious advice i usually would go to the following people for it in that particular order: Misha, Eco, Indi, Vashti.

everyone else is a joke, no offense. I mean their opinions are purely for entertainment purposes.

If someone is giving advice, then there's nothing slapstick about it. If they're joking or bein' a cock, that means they're not event attempting to give legitimate advice. Make sense?

In other words, amongst the regulars and semi-regulars, you won't find "empty" advice so long as the original poster is legitimate. A middle aged Indian man crying because his 15 year old Texas on-line girlfriend's mother doesn't like him, is one that will receive ridicule.

The problem I can see, is that many of us, have been doing this for so long, we pick and choose our threads carefully.

Didn't you ever see my "thank you" thread?

Mish
09-01-09, 05:56 AM
I'm pretty new here, but I'd have to agree that a fair bit of the time instead of answering questions people just try to be funny.


Well people are not paid for answering questions here, this is not a paid job surely sometimes their needs for fun should also be taken into account. I'm sure there are plenty of other forums out there that can cater for extra requirements. Maybe some paid ones. Why not frequent them?

I'm sure LF is not perfect and has problems (name one thing in the world that doesn't), but it has some very distinct advantages (e.g. amount of posters / regulars, free advise, speed with which advise is given) and if these advantages are not sufficient for some people then go somewhere else. Look for something that caters to your specific needs. And if you really want to improve LF post some constructive criticism and ways how problems can be resolved. Don't do a troll thing like Everlovin attacking everyone thinking that's your bit for humanity for the year.

Junket
09-01-09, 05:58 AM
Here, found it: http://www.loveforum.net/off-topic-discussion/25474-heres-thank-you-all-our-members.html

misombra
09-01-09, 05:59 AM
good point.

thread closed.

Junket
09-01-09, 06:00 AM
Why closed?

This is so much fun!

I can spend more time here bullshitting than giving legitimate advice!

misombra
09-01-09, 06:01 AM
there's other threads for bullshitting. this one's for bitching.

Junket
09-01-09, 06:40 AM
there's other threads for bullshitting. this one's for bitching.

Well, well, looks who's bitching...

misombra
09-01-09, 06:46 AM
you can still bullshit in here.

Junket
09-01-09, 06:49 AM
Reminds me of when Kiechi made a thread just to close it and talk "in front" of all the normal posters with the other mods.

I wanted to virtually kick him in the balls.

misombra
09-01-09, 06:51 AM
oh yeah the mod thread lol.

i remember that.

okay frizzz. shut up and let's let this one die. okay?

Illusional
11-01-09, 02:37 AM
there should a be a certain level of intelligence or experience to give out a competent advice.

the last time that i checked, the forums didn't have an aducation requirement.

however, it's the closed minded thinking that gets people mad. sure everyone comes online to ask question, bitch, and act silly.. but this is a "public" forum where everything and anything goes.

shit shit... when did this freaking thread get closed?? we should open up another one.. or f*ck that, make a bitching section....

raverboy