Please help me...

[Noble Wolf]

Hello,
I need some help. I am 23 year old male, and a virgin, by choice . I am quite attractive, but I am really shy and a real prude and believe in love before sex. I have never had a girlfriend, because my standards are requirements, not recommendations. I don't drink, smoke, or have any real vices. The girl I need advice on and I have so much in common about everything, from Religion to politics to... Well everything! Now that introductions are done...

The women I love, seriously I mean LOVE, has recently come back into my life. I always had a crush on her, but the age difference was too great at the time, she's five years older than me and I met her when I was in middle school, she's my sister's friend. Now that I am mature, handsome, and in great shape with a great job lined up, I was finally going to make a move, but now I'm in a bit of a bind.

My brother, who knows how I feel about her by the way, has started dating her. Neither he nor she knows that I know. My brother is what you could call a slut. He's nearly 30, but he lives like a 19 year old boy. He sleeps around with at least 4 different women, and that's just his regulars. Recently he had a three way with two high school girls. They were both 18, but still . He has also NEVER been a one woman man.

The girl and I recently became CLOSE friends and I brought it to her attention, slyly, that he's a slut. She say's people can change, but I know he hasn't. Should I give her specifics or will that ruin our friendship. She may think I'm trying to sabotage the relationship. I don't know if she knows how I feel about her.

So here's my question. Do I tell her about his sex addiction? It would put a huge rift between me and my brother, who I do still love even though he's such a jerk. Do I make my move and hope she goes for me? I don't know if she will Do I wait and let the situation resolve itself? I don't want her to get hurt. Do I forget the both of them and focus on my career? Once I get accepted into the Border Patrol I'll have to go to middle of nowhere in New Mexico for 6 months for the academy. Do you think it would be worse to have a girlfriend and not see her for 6 months, or to pine over a woman and possibly wash out because I'm thinking about her so much? She is an honorable woman and I know she wouldn't sleep around on me.

Please help me... Please. The pain hurts, and I won't meet another woman like her. I know some won’t agree with my life choices, but I have resolved to stay celibate until my death if necessary. I have asked for God’s help, but there’s nothing wrong with asking you all. Thanks for reading all that.

-Noble Wolf

[vashti]

Sorry, but she is dating your brother, which makes her your brother's GIRLFRIEND. To tell her anything negative about him WOULD be to try to sabotage their relationship, so I think you ought not go there, especially because he is your own brother. There are certain lines that should never be crossed, and that is one of them. If it makes you feel any better, it is highly unlikely she would have dated you anyway. Most women are not comfortable being older than the men they date. Besides, you DID say you were going away for 6 months...

[misombra]

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Originally Posted by Noble Wolf

Hello,
I need some help. I am 23 year old male, and a virgin, by choice . I am quite attractive, but I am really shy and a real prude and believe in love before sex. I have never had a girlfriend, because my standards are requirements, not recommendations. I don't drink, smoke, or have any real vices. The girl I need advice on and I have so much in common about everything, from Religion to politics to... Well everything! Now that introductions are done...

The women I love, seriously I mean LOVE, has recently come back into my life. I always had a crush on her, but the age difference was too great at the time, she's five years older than me and I met her when I was in middle school, she's my sister's friend. Now that I am mature, handsome, and in great shape with a great job lined up, I was finally going to make a move, but now I'm in a bit of a bind.

My brother, who knows how I feel about her by the way, has started dating her. Neither he nor she knows that I know. My brother is what you could call a slut. He's nearly 30, but he lives like a 19 year old boy. He sleeps around with at least 4 different women, and that's just his regulars. Recently he had a three way with two high school girls. They were both 18, but still . He has also NEVER been a one woman man.

The girl and I recently became CLOSE friends and I brought it to her attention, slyly, that he's a slut. She say's people can change, but I know he hasn't. Should I give her specifics or will that ruin our friendship. She may think I'm trying to sabotage the relationship. I don't know if she knows how I feel about her.

So here's my question. Do I tell her about his sex addiction? It would put a huge rift between me and my brother, who I do still love even though he's such a jerk. Do I make my move and hope she goes for me? I don't know if she will Do I wait and let the situation resolve itself? I don't want her to get hurt. Do I forget the both of them and focus on my career? Once I get accepted into the Border Patrol I'll have to go to middle of nowhere in New Mexico for 6 months for the academy. Do you think it would be worse to have a girlfriend and not see her for 6 months, or to pine over a woman and possibly wash out because I'm thinking about her so much? She is an honorable woman and I know she wouldn't sleep around on me.

Please help me... Please. The pain hurts, and I won't meet another woman like her. I know some won’t agree with my life choices, but I have resolved to stay celibate until my death if necessary. I have asked for God’s help, but there’s nothing wrong with asking you all. Thanks for reading all that.

-Noble Wolf

ah man you're joining la migra?

sorry, we can't be friends.

[funsounds]

you can't do anything. just wait it out...she'll figure it out. then maybe afterwards, you might have a shot...thought it'd still be awkward since she will have dated your brother.

best thing to do is just put it out of your mind...just forget and concentrate on your career...

[chelsee]

she's gonna have to figure out your brother all on her own. don't say anything girls don't usually listen to what other people say about their boyfiends. it might make her like you less for sticking your nose in.

[RSK]

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Originally Posted by Noble Wolf

I have asked for God’s help.

-Noble Wolf

What did God say?

Ok, enough of the corny jokes.

...I would let your brother and his girlfriend, just be. Let her figure your brother out. Be her friend. But I would be an ear more than a mouth. Just listen to her 80% of the time, and talk 20% of the time. Be an ear.

[Noble Wolf]

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If it makes you feel any better, it is highly unlikely she would have dated you anyway. Most women are not comfortable being older than the men they date.

Her past boyfriends are roughly my age, so she does have a history of cradle-robbing.

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What did God say?

He said He'll do what He can, but He's not a miracle worker.

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ah man you're joining la migra?

sorry, we can't be friends.

What's wrong with La Migra? Surely you've seen how badly the Coyotes treat the Pollo's? If you can stop the Pollo's at the border, then maybe they'll get the idea to rebel and improve Mexico, rather than immigrate here and send American money to their families in Mexico. Let's also not forget the drug, and terrorist problems.

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you can't do anything. just wait it out...she'll figure it out. then maybe afterwards, you might have a shot...thought it'd still be awkward since she will have dated your brother.

best thing to do is just put it out of your mind...just forget and concentrate on your career...

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she's gonna have to figure out your brother all on her own. don't say anything girls don't usually listen to what other people say about their boyfiends. it might make her like you less for sticking your nose in.

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...I would let your brother and his girlfriend, just be. Let her figure your brother out. Be her friend. But I would be an ear more than a mouth. Just listen to her 80% of the time, and talk 20% of the time. Be an ear.

Well it's frustrating, but it all makes sense. I think I'll pretend to be oblivious to they're relationship and stay close friends with her. They can't last. I think my brother feels guilty though, he gave me two new pair of boots and a knife. I guess I can try and milk that for all it's worth.

Thanks for your help, I feel better just talking about it. I'm still hoping the solitary Noble Wolf may have a pack of his own someday... I guess I'm still in the denial stage.

- Noble Wolf

[Bluevetteracer]

Hello,
I need some help. I am 23 year old male, and a virgin, by choice . I am quite attractive, but I am really shy and a real prude and believe in love before sex. I have never had a girlfriend, because my standards are requirements, not recommendations.


Are you sure you are not too good for everyone? You are 23 and never had a GF?


I don't drink, smoke, or have any real vices.

You don't ever dip?


The women I love, seriously I mean LOVE, has recently come back into my life. I always had a crush on her

You never had a GF, so how do you know you love her? You are infatuated my friend. She embodies all that you LOOK for in a women, but do you really know her?

My brother, who knows how I feel about her by the way, has started dating her.

Women are not as stupid as some men think, they just play possum really well. She is dating him!!!

My brother is what you could call a slut. He's nearly 30, but he lives like a 19 year old boy. He sleeps around with at least 4 different women, and that's just his regulars. Recently he had a three way with two high school girls. They were both 18, but still . He has also NEVER been a one woman man.

Sounds like his business and not yours. Unless he is destroying people's lives with lies, and deception, then stay out of his affairs. SURPRISE, woman are not dumb, fragile, innocent flowers that need you to care for them and tell them what is good for them, or shelter them from guys like you brother.

The girl and I recently became CLOSE friends and I brought it to her attention, slyly, that he's a slut.

BREAKING THE MAN CODE, YOU MY FRIEND ARE A BACK STABBER. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND FIND YOUR OWN WOMEN.

She say's people can change, but I know he hasn't. Should I give her specifics or will that ruin our friendship. She may think I'm trying to sabotage the relationship.

She knows exactly what he is, maybe it turns her on?

So here's my question. Do I tell her about his sex addiction?

She already knows?

It would put a huge rift between me and my brother, who I do still love even though he's such a jerk.

Jealousy Maybe?

Do I make my move and hope she goes for me?

Don't worry about it, she is not into you. If she was, she would have made that very clear by now.

I don't know if she will Do I wait and let the situation resolve itself? I don't want her to get hurt.

She is a big girl, she does not need you to take care of her.

Do I forget the both of them and focus on my career?

Yes, you will make a perfect COP.

Once I get accepted into the Border Patrol

Good luck with the MMPI.

I'll have to go to middle of nowhere in New Mexico for 6 months for the academy.

Sounds like plenty of time to think about her with one hand!

She is an honorable woman and I know she wouldn't sleep around on me.

Are you sure about that, she is dating your brother, and if she did not "put out" if you will, I am sure he would not be with her.

Please help me... Please. The pain hurts, and I won't meet another woman like her.

How do you know that, there are many women out there.

I know some won’t agree with my life choices, but I have resolved to stay celibate until my death if necessary.

That is very admirable, and maybe you should seek a women with the same values.

I have asked for God’s help,

He is the best man for this kind of help. I have been on the line with him often myself.

[whaywardj]

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Originally Posted by Bluevetteracer

...He is the best man for this kind of help. I have been on the line with him often myself.

Who says God is a He?

Other than that, good stuff, Vette. This guy's living in a dreamworld. I shudder to think of him with a badge and a gun.

[vashti]

What is so admirable about staying a virgin until one dies (unless you are a priest or a nun, but even then, it is debateable).

[Bluevetteracer]

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Originally Posted by whaywardj

Who says God is a He?
Other than that, good stuff, Vette. This guy's living in a dreamworld. I shudder to think of him with a badge and a gun.

Well, good point, if a man created all this, it would have sure as heck been more logical.

Let me tell you, Many Mil Officers, COPS, MP's are MAJOR TOOLS.

They were picked on, left out, whatever, and now they have a badge and some authority.

I love pulling rank on Enlisted MP's. Cut them down to size a tad when they are pulling over housewives on base and giving them a bad time about something stupid like parking.

This guys is good looking, fit and a stud, and in all of his 23 years, not once has any women ever shown an interest in him, or let alone thrown herself at him. Not saying you have to sleep with them, but to good to take one of them to a movie, or dinner. Not one girl in HS good enough to date or take out, go to prom with.

Like I said, good luck with the MMPI, maybe not a requirement for a border cop?

[misombra]

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Originally Posted by Noble Wolf

What's wrong with La Migra? Surely you've seen how badly the Coyotes treat the Pollo's? If you can stop the Pollo's at the border, then maybe they'll get the idea to rebel and improve Mexico, rather than immigrate here and send American money to their families in Mexico. Let's also not forget the drug, and terrorist problems.

the coyotes started treating people like shit because la migra came on strong after 9/11 and the coyotes had more power. before that it was someone trying to get their cousin in or something. as for terrorism, have you seen how easy it is to get through canada compared to mexico? the drug problem, well that would go on through florida, even if it were to stop coming through mexico. they wouldn't even be able to stop a terrorist from coming through. and if we closed the borders, those people would starve to death or die of some kind of bacteria in the water. sorry, we still can't be friends.

[Bluevetteracer]

OK, I am having a real bad night. I have dealt with more shit today and tonight to last all month.

So, I am going on a rampage, and it is not directed at anyone, maybe Wolf.

WOMEN are not stupid, they are not innocent flowers, and do not need man to shine a little bit of light on things for them.

Why is it men feel they need to shelter women from the horrids of a man that is sexually active?

SURPRISE, women are sexually active as well, and when they get into bed with you, they are not doing you a favor. THEY WANT TO BE THERE AS WELL.

My friend, digest this. Maybe this flower of a girl likes being screwed by your brother, and then likes to watch as he nails a few other women. Or maybe likes the 3 ways.

The problem here is this; it is none of your business. You expect her to be repulsed by this, because she is your flower, right?

Women don't talk or boast about sex or their thought on it like men do. They might to their GF, but like masturbating, it is something we all do, but in the civilized world, we just don't talk about it.

Would you respect her as much if you envisioned her in bed and screaming someone's name *#^* ME HARDER, *&^%^& ME HARDER.

Because my friend, the nicest, women in the world, still have desires. And because of your lack of understanding, and fortitude about women, they will always be scared you will judge them as you have judged all the women you will not date.

So, if you were in bed with her, and she cried out your name, and said *&^^ ME HARDER, she would be afraid you would call her a slut and judge her. You have standards to which I am not sure anyone can live up to.

Sorry for making you my target, as this is about every 3rd guy I see.

You remind me of this guy from college. Would not Commit to this girl he was "dating". He would take her out here and there, and treated her like a flower, yelled at her if she told a dirty joke, etc.

She would come visit me 2-3 nights a week for a booty call for an entire semester. She was proper, straight A student, etc. But was a vixen in bed. Why me you ask. Because I never judged her, I made her feel safe, and she felt she could just let go. I did not know this, she told me this. And the fact I could keep my mouth shut. Never told anyone. We were just "study" partners.

The man that keeps his mouth shut will become a commodity on a college campus.

[whaywardj]

I don't get the "major tools" jargon. Unless, maybe, you meant "major fools"?

As for our OP and the MMPI, I suspect he'd show high elevations on scales 2 and 4.

[whaywardj]

Damn, Vette. Does the word "brevity" ring a bell? I thought I was long-winded. Fuh-uck.