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| | | Be a Man! What can I say... too many guys just don't know how to be a man! This article describes being a man excellently and I think every male should read it. This article can be found inside my journal alongside 3 other articles that deserve equal merit. Be a Man! Originally posted by Pook
There is a prize to the person who correctly answers this question, What is a Man? When asked what they want in a guy, women say simply, "A MAN!" But, alas!, real men are becoming more and more rare these days. Women are tired of the sensative wimps who have no backbones. One women even wrote a song about the subject, "Where have all the cowboys gone?"
So what is a Man? How should he act? Decades and centuries ago, the question was nonsense. But today in our feminized culture (this may be more in America then in other countries), most of us have been raised to believe that there is something inherently wrong with being a man and acting the way how a man should act. No wonder males don't know how to act around women! No wonder websites like these exist!
Indeed, I embarked on this mystery to find out the answer to this question. Several women were bunched up in a group, gossiping and yapping about cute boys, fashion, relationships i.e. nothing. This behavior extends to all women of all cultures (and also different animal species. Cows group together and moo and gnaw on grass and take notice of bulls brave enough to approach the group).
I approach. "How are you, ladies!! I am the Pook."
A woman squeals. "Oh! It's a Pook!" The others squeal in unison.
Once the ladies calm themselves after being in the presence of a Pook, I ask them, "Ladies! Do tell me, what do you define as a Man?"
With devilish tongues, the women answer:
"A Man is someone sensative to me."
"A Man is the guy who will take care of my needs."
"A Man is the one that is in tune with my feelings."
"A Man is one who doesn't have an ego."
"A Man is the guy who will sit and watch chick flicks all day with me."
"A Man is the guy who will go shopping with me."
"A Man is the guy who will share all his feelings with me."
Such are the common answers! The males listen and actualize what the women say. They are constantly declared 'sweet' and 'wonderful' and 'nice', oh 'so nice'. Mothers and older women are proud of them and tell them, "If I were younger, I would go for you!"
Poor Nice Guy! The women his own age avoid him like the plague and jump for the jerks. The Nice Guy becomes an emotional tampon to be used and discarded. The Nice Guy, being so nice and sweet, listens to the woman vomit her feelings about men and bleed her problems of her boyfriend on him. He listens with baited hope when he hears, "Oh, why can't guys be like you! You listen and understand." Then she turns around and gets abused by another jerk! The vicious cycle repeats again and again.
Why are women acting in this way?
They are simply acting as women do, as in their nature. The problem is not with them, it is with guys. We are afraid to embrace OUR nature, that of being a Man. Being in a culture that sees Manhood as predatory and oppressive and uncouth, we cover it up within ourselves. By doing so, we hide our sexuality. (Sexuality! Do I mean rock hard abs and rippling muscles? That is not what women find sexy [it's a contributing factor, not the core]. A type of PERSONALITY is what women are looking for. Someone they can depend on [has backbone], someone who will be successful [has ambition], and someone who is decisive [has charge]. Nice guys have no backbone because they think women are frail things that will break in confrontation; nice guys reveal no ambition because they fear being seen as arrogant to women; nice guys are afraid to be decisive for fear of being seen as 'oppressive'.)
Two poles of thought men drift into: the Nice Guy and the Jerk. Both blame the other.
"You ruin the women with your lack of commitment and unappreciative nature," says the Nice Guy.
"You spoil the women with your endless listening ear and stupid caring attitude," replies the Jerk.
The two endlessly war. Those on the sidelines have their own conclusions. One side says, "The Jerk is the way to go. Ceaseless sex! Evolution demands it." The other side says, "The Nice Guy is the way to go. Glorious relationship! Society demands it."
But the two still argue.
"You cause the women to think they are in control," says the Jerk.
"Ahh, but you cause the women to think all men are scum," replies the Nice Guy.
Is there not an end to the Nice Guy vs.Jerk debate? Are these the only choices? The Cycle The Nice Guy emerges. He is tenderized and wants to shout in every woman's ear "I will not abuse you. I am sweet and good. Based on that alone you should date me." When the Nice Guy talks to the girl on a date, *poof*, the date turns into Oprah. "Oh, my life has been SO downhill from here," the Nice Guy whines. "My little girly car was slashed, I failed my classes, but because of you this day has been so much better." Then the Nice Guy goes, "Let me tell you my life story. My birth was long, hard, and painful for my mother..." Our culture has become so feminized that the Nice Guy thinks it is proper to vomit his feelings and emotions all over the place. (It's gross!) Women, rightfully, run for the hills when they hear your declarations of love. The Metamorphosis comes. The Nice Guy eventually realizes what all the ladies want, becomes bitter, and changes himself into a Jerk. His goal now is to sleep with as many women as possible and figure out all the tricks and tactics to do so. He focuses on calculation rather then natural joy. When a woman comes, he pulls out a chart of all the 'moves' and 'tactics' with arrows and patterns. He unleashes his lap top, accesses a Lay Guide, and reviews his strategy. Time passes and once was fun becomes meaningless. Back to being nice. He sees it now as turning on Nice Guy or turning on Jerk. "Why can't I just be myself!?" he soon thunders at Reality. Just be a Man! There is no need to reprogram yourself. You will have the interests you have, the hobbies you have, the body you have, but you can easily become a MAN. It is all simply in the way how you think and as you think you shall become. But what is Man? Shall we have the answer? Here it is: A Man is a guy who is not scared of his testosterone!
A Man follows the passion in his life. Passion of women? Of course not. A Man has goals and desires that goes above that of chasing chicks. After childhood, there are TRUE winners and losers in life. A Man desires to be the winner. A Man WANTS to win in what he does. Because of his passion, a Man can sometimes come off as arrogant and egotistical. He does not apologize for this or for his desires.
"It is your actions that cause the disgrace of Men," says the Nice Guy.
"It is yours," replies the Jerk.
No, gentlemen, the disgrace of men is in not embracing your true nature: following your passion and, thus, loving life. Women are to enhance your life, not to be your life. So to the Nice Guy, stop placing your happiness on getting a girlfriend. To the Jerk, quit wasting your life on seduction. Don't SPEND your time chasing girls, INVEST it by putting it into your interests and desires, thus the whole of your life.
When you do this, all of a sudden you have what every woman wants: Ambition, charge, decisiveness, backbone, kindness, stableness, and confidence. (continued below)
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| | (continued from above)
I want you to read what a women posted as what SHE thought was a great guy. (Focus on what I put in BOLD)
"Qualifications" of a great guy"
1)Physical
A bit athletic so he's in shape and a good complexion(If he can help it). Very focused, intelligent eyes which pay attention to whoever deserves it. Hair that can be tossled...and a relaxed, but tidy wardrobe.
2)Emotional
His attitude has gotta be mostly deterministic and level-headed. If crappy stuff happens to him...he should roll with the punches and learn from it. If he ends up doing crappy stuff then he should get up, brush off and be a better guy the next time round.
-He must also have deep convictions: he should NEVER give up his ideals or morals for anything.
-I know it sounds cheezy, but he must be respectful to his mother(it reflects character)...even if she is witchy like some moms these days.
-And of course:sense of humor, artistic, and an awesome boyfriend.
3)Social
A great guy is the one who offers the girls a chair, opens doors etc.(But isn't a total flirt--he just considers it his duty.)
-A guy should clean up his language around girls.
-He should stand up for people who are being bashed in conversations. That's important to us girls b/c back-stabbing is common among us--and we REALLY notice when somebody isn't a gossip.
-Aaaand my personal thing is that he should be the guy who "could" be the center of attention...but he prefers to hang out with the few guys in the back who are his genuine friends.
Phew...I hope this helped a bit. Physique: as long as it's within the usual bounds is pretty much unimportant.
If you want to get a really great girl...start working on your character and self-control--(not b/c it's you, but b/c those two things are REALLY uncommon these days)--because a great girl is one who's been working on that already and she'll recognize it in you.
A Man has character and deep convictions. He has PASSION in life about something. It is this passion that transforms his life, gives him confidence, and gives him joy. It is this PASSION that will give you that right mindset for you have goals and dreams that go beyond chicks.
Remember, if you cannot command respect, you cannot attract love. If you cannot be respected, women will ignore you and/or abuse you.
Once upon a time, there was a little boy who was scrawny, cried easily, and was a total wuss. At the age of ten, his father looked down at him disapprovingly. "You are such a wimp!" he scolded at his son. The boy cried but eventually discovered what was wrong with him. He worked out, studied, and utilized himself. He went around the world in the most ferocious quests. He became strong and powerful. He entered politics and became an unstoppable force. He would be shot when giving a speech, but he would pull himself back up to continue the speech!
He was President Teddy Roosevelt, one of the more significant characters in America. If that little wimpy boy could become such a character, anyone can be a Man.
What do guys today do? We try to hide our strength and express our 'femininity'. Take an example of guys: early on in a relationship, they will show how 'great' they are by cooking for the woman!
As Anti-Dump said:
Real men are not available. They are climbing mountains. They are swimming across rivers. What are you doing? Making spaghetti?!
A Man, -Does not go through life walking on eggshells.
Nice Guys think, "Does she like me? How do I get her to like me?" Good guys think, "Should I like her? Should I go for her?" The Good guy doesn't think about the girl's interest until they're dating. The Good guy looks at all the girls and TAKES what he wants. -Focuses on his dreams.
No, this does not include the chick. You must have passion for something in life, something you even want to do for the rest of your life. Your romantic life is an echo of your regular life. -Does not apologize for his testosterone, for his desires.
"Oh, I am so sorry, ladies! I am afflicted with this disease known as M.A.L.E. It is natural for me to glance at you, your oh so curvaceous body. I am soooo sorry. Please, please FORGIVE ME!"
Would a WOMAN apologize for her feminine acts? So why should YOU apologize for your masculinity? -Tries to always win in what he does. (After childhood, there are real winners and losers in life.)
Men build towers; women build webs. If you aren't constructing your tower or aren't even planning it, why should she cast her web at you? If you want worthy chicks, you, yourself, must strive to become worthy. -Has deep convictions that allows him to be a possible leader.
This is crucial because one day you will become the leader of your own household. Yes, we talk of 50/50, of everything being equal, but Nature's laws surpass that of Humans. Women naturally submit and nurture, Men naturally lead and provide.
If you were a woman, would YOU want a Nice Guy in charge of your household? Or would you want A MAN? -Seeks to solve problems then to place blame.
If there is a problem, you solve it. You do not go, "Oh, BOO HOO! This was because of HIM." A woman naturally wants a guy who deals with problems, not pass them along. (Would you want that in your woman? Of course not!) -Sees failure as only a temporary set-back to the inevitable.
Statistically, you're more likely to be REJECTED then to be ACCEPTED. So how do you become more and more accepted and have lots of girls? It is when you increase your trying so much that the acception rate satisfies you and you don't notice the rejections.
Napoleon Hill's book interviewing extremely successful people, these men of destiny did not let failure destroy them. Indeed, Napoleon concludes that Destiny puts out these trials and failures to TEST the men if they are proper and FIT for their role in shaping history. -Knows where he is going in Life.
True seduction isn't calculation or painful discipline, it is the same as with everything that makes a success: A Passion for Life. -Never loses his passion, for that would be the death of his soul.
Nice Guys HATE bachelorhood. They HATE, HATE, HATE it sooo much. Some even wish for the old days of arranged marriages so they wouldn't have to put up with all the games.
Jerks LOVE bachelorhood so much they can't see anything else in life. While women love guys that can get women, jerks offer nothing worthwile long term wise.
Alas, the women always try to change the Jerk but never the Nice Guy. Why? Because a Man is STRENGTH and a Jerk displays strength on some level. Nice Guys never do. -Never feels he has to prove himself to anyone.
Flowers, candy, poetry all can be good additions to a relationship, but so many nice guys use them to BUY the relationship as if they must prove themselves. They flood with the poor woman with gifts to show they mean it.
So away with the flowers, those dead plants as tokens of affection. Away with the choclate, the candy, and sweets, those sugary pursuits to purchase love. Away with the poety, those rotten verses of declarations of love. Away with the quest to prove YOURSELF and let her prove HERSELF to you for YOU are the Don Juan.
Be a Man! And with it, you will advance in your career, your social life, and even your dealings with women. Men are very rare these days so if you become one, you will be in HIGH demand. Your career will become better as people look at you as a leader. Life will re-develop before your eyes for you will obtain the most single quality that men, not trophy husbands, not nice guys, not tactiful players, but men have a monopoly on: Respect.
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| | | lol. From pook, huh? www.girlproblems.com? | | 
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| | Lol, no, but you're getting close. Sir_Chancealot was the big DJ who ripped the crap out of gp.com (the site no longer exists, they shut down girlproblems.com/vBulletin). Pook was on the main Don Juan site... I won't mention that forum but I'll mention its evil alter-ego: mASF.
Either way, its the best post I've ever read... rate it, if it gets the 5 stars guys will take the time to read it and become MEN. | | 
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| | | I know the main DJ site. I checked out their articles a while back to learn more and signed up for the newsletter. I just never felt quite worthy enough to become a member and post on the that forum so I stuck with gp.
I remember that post almost word for word. Such a good one. Allright, I'll stop rambling on like a little girl now. It's 3:30 in the morning and I have yet to decide whether I'm going to go to sleep or not.
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| | | sfalexi,
Its an anonymous online forum, what is this worthy enough nonsense. Become a member if you want to. Also, you sound like you're not your average AFC so what's the problem? By the way, if you really want to DJ you remember Nick's biblecamp right? | | 
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| | | I've already grasped what's in that paragraph you pasted here a while ago. I guess there's still some guys that don't quite get it, and think that a super nice guy is EXACTLY what a girl wants.
Even if that doesn't sound true or right, it is. | | 
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| | Yeah... we just need to spread the wisdom and make sure the average joe's out there get some self-control. Btw., the reason I re-pasted this article is because last time I pasted it inside a thread where it could get very little potential exposure. This time I'm pasting it as its own thread where people are much more likely to read the first 2 or 3 posts and, hereby, give it MORE exposure.  | | 
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| | | I know it's an anonymous forum, but I don't really go out and hook up with girls, or go out on dates. I only really magically transform into a DJ when I happen to be single and looking for the girl for the relationship. Then, when I'm in the relationship, there's really no need to continue getting girls attracted to me. So I'd be pretty useless in that forum.
It worked though. Before I went to that forum I had maybe one or two girls interested in me in a span of three years. When I joined the old gp.com and started reading that stuff and gaining confidence in myself, I had about six women to choose from over three months ranging from 2 years younger than me to 7 years older than me. People I thought I would never be able to get cause they were too hot, or much older, or both. Maybe not a real Don Juan, but definitely an improvement. But I narrowed it down to one and I've been with her for 10 months and the relationship is going well.
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| | | Happy for ya, sfalexi.
Yeah, if you ever need some advice though, come back to the DJ Forum and see what's changed... there are lots of new techniques that we've formulated that I'm afraid you missed out on (although you seem to have little need for them now)
such as SS (Speed Seduction) and NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming), check out mASF, they are more on top of unusual techniques in seduction. | | 
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| | | If THAT is being a man, then i would rather be a lesbian then a straight guy. Seriously. No woman worth dating needs a guy THAT manly.
the truth that you dont want to face is that girls DO like guys who are nice. They often go for the confident guys in high school, but when it comes to marriage girls dont marry the confident jerk who only sleeps with them for fun.
And there IS shame in your testorsterone. Our feminist society is right: it is violence, and in general masculininty that causes a lot of our problems. We need to make guys LESS like guys. Less barroom brawls, less wanting to sleep around, less anger. Only likeing a girl for her body IS shameful!
I'll never be that kind of man, ever. I'll be the nice guy, as long as a live. I hope other guys do not see this. We need guys to be LESS angry and masculine and full of lust. No the other way around. In the olden days, men were not equals in their relationships, so being that manly fit. But today, with a spouce as an equal, men need to mellow down a bit to understand their wives feelings and be kind to them. | | 
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| | Atticus - If THAT is being a man, then i would rather be a lesbian then a straight guy. Seriously. No woman worth dating needs a guy THAT manly.
The truth is, the guy described above is not that manly. Instead, he's driven and confident. If you could describe in more detail what parts of his definition of a man you disagree with we could have a much more interesting discussion.
- the truth that you dont want to face is that girls DO like guys who are nice. They often go for the confident guys in high school, but when it comes to marriage girls dont marry the confident jerk who only sleeps with them for fun.
First of all, if you ask any player whether his goal in life is to be a player until the day he dies then you will hear a resolute "No." For many of us this is a stage of life, we will enjoy our prime, but utlimately, I want a wife and I cannot imagine, under any circumstances, that I would cheat on her. Now, high school is not the only place where women go for the more confident men, in fact, in college, at work, a long time after high school, women are still attracted to more confident men. Also, lets clarify some definitions here.
A nice guy is a guy who is not truly nice, he's just afraid to be himself so he tries desperately to please people, he is very concerned with what others think of him, and he is unassertive in fear of hurting others.
A nice man is the guy who matches the article for the most part but he can still be tender, caring, and is faithful. Women like nice men, men who can control themselves yet have the few qualities that women deem commendable in nice guys. Nice men are not nice guys and women do not want nice guys. Every chick on this forum I've gotten into a drawn out argument with ended up agreeing with me that she was looking for a Nice Man, not a Nice Guy, and, in fact, I see affirmation of this every day.
- And there IS shame in your testorsterone. Our feminist society is right: it is violence, and in general masculininty that causes a lot of our problems. We need to make guys LESS like guys. Less barroom brawls, less wanting to sleep around, less anger. Only likeing a girl for her body IS shameful!
I disagree, what you are talking about is not masculinity, it is something primal. A nice man does not beat up his wife, get angered easily, or do barroom brawls. In fact, most of the people who get into barroom brawls are just frustrated idiots who have zero skill when it comes to dating. Furthermore, very few players like girls simply for their bodies. I've found myself physically attracted to women before and had them reciprocate this attraction only for me to NeXt them because they were not attractive to me mentally. Players do not like a girl simply because of her body, granted, some guys do, but those are the minority.
- I'll never be that kind of man, ever. I'll be the nice guy, as long as a live. I hope other guys do not see this. We need guys to be LESS angry and masculine and full of lust. No the other way around. In the olden days, men were not equals in their relationships, so being that manly fit. But today, with a spouce as an equal, men need to mellow down a bit to understand their wives feelings and be kind to them.
I agree with you, men need to be kind towards their wives, but should they be kind to the first girl who gives them any sign of affirmation? Nice guys do not fall in love with women because they are that amazing, they fall in love because THEY ARE DESPERATE. Read some of the love/obsession posts around here and you see that guys admit to love and maybe missing out on that one special girl when, in reality, you see very little evidence that would lead you to believe the girl is that special. This nice guy, however, sees a sign of interest on the girl's behalf and ends up obsessed. People need to understand the value of loving someone that passionately, not throw it at women hoping they'll reciprocate. I've had loving monogamous relationships and they were special because my partner was, not because I was desperate. And yes, in the olden days being manly made sense, but I don't see why the man described is incompatible today? I'd be interested to know what you consider overly manly about the definition given in the post above.
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| | It's not testosterone/masculinity that creates the violence in todays society, it is society in itself...A lot of people listen so closely to what "society" tells them, that when they try to act it out and fail then they become irate/violent/suicidal, because they feel they were misguided.
Imagine us all having the mind of an infant before we became "corrupted". We couldn't understand what people were telling us to do then, we sure in the hell wasn't afraid of screwing up, and how easy was it to make us happy? We sometimes only see things the way we want to see them......While most of the time there is a much bigger picture behind it.
People resort to violence because they are afraid of something, wether it's being afraid someone thinks they are a wuss or being afraid someone is going to hurt you, steal something from you, possibly kill you, leave you, cheat on you, fear of losing your superiourness....this list goes on. But it revolves around 1 thing FEAR!!!! All and I repeat ALL of todays problems are created because of somebody, somewhere fearing something.
I for one fear nothing but fear itself
Now that I got my Dr Phillyness out....beer me!! 
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