Please help, urgent need advice by monday.

[enterprise]

yes but the only really ugly girls arn;t the type of people i would reallt talk to they swear a few times every sentence, they arn't very nice and well what can i say there personality just really would make it just as hard as talking to a pretty girl.

EDIT: checked my email and she added me to her facebook, which looks like a good thing

[enterprise]

heres the msgs we sent eachother after she got it:

Me
I was going to add you to facebook when i got home from helping my dad for like 3 hours today but i always check my email before i leave so this works out just s well.
So Can You Come To Work Tomorrow??
It won't be the same without you.
Her
Aww..thanks.
He didn't think he needs us all tomorrow so I'm not sure.
I'll wait to see what Nechama says after she hears from him, but it doesn't sound like i'll be there.
Do you have msn or im?

Then she looked in my rpofile and added me

[enterprise]

ok now know she doesn't "like" me. case she talked about this guy she "likes" who ignored her.

Edit: Not to mention shes shomear nageah which means i can't touch her at all, no huggin no tickling no arm on her and escpeially no kissing.

So that Just makes life harder, don't it

[thinker]

shomear nageah? Religious order I assume?

Yeah, those people are just stupid... honestly... no touching at all? wtf?

I feel sorry for people who are raised to believe this sort of thing is normal and/or healthy...

I would stay away from her... sorry

[enterprise]

she wasn't raised that religious, he parents ran't like that she and her brother are though. she almost went to my school, they accepted her but she and i can clearly tell they don't like having religious kids let alone anyone with shomer nageah belief but she goes to an all girls school so there isn't to much competition i hope , but then we were talking and i know she likes osmeone else so bugger.

edit: it's not 0 touching like we could have a handshack or high5 but nothing in nayway shape or form of even the slightest sexuality is how it's usually phrased.

but shes a good friend however in 2 years she going to isreal for colledge, bugger .

[vashti]

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinker

shomear nageah? Religious order I assume?

Yeah, those people are just stupid... honestly... no touching at all? wtf?

I feel sorry for people who are raised to believe this sort of thing is normal and/or healthy...

I would stay away from her... sorry

Wow, for a guy who has a bible verse for a signature, I am surprised to see you call religious people stupid. Almost all traditional religions frown on physical contact between unmarried people.

Anyway, enterprise, if she is shomer negiah, I am not sure she will be allowed to date anyone at all, especially at her age. In fact, I am rather sure dating would be frowned upon. The Orthodox tend to take dating very seriously, which I am sure you know. Casual dating is a no-no. Wait a couple of years, though, and they might let you marry her.

BTW - What's this new trend about the kids being more observant than their parents? My husband's son is Baal Tshuva.

[KillaJakez]

We aren't here to criticize religion. This person has certain things he has to work with, and it's best that one gives advice to help him with what he can do given his situation, not criticize certain religious adherances.

[enterprise]

it's ok i don't believe in shomer nageah but then again that is like how a lot of people who are Muslims now i hear many convert because in socety it kind of sets you apart from others. but we still shouldn't make fun of it .

And don't ask about the kids more religious then the parents thing thats just strange , maybe g-d spoke to us or something i dunno.

edit: how do you date a girl who is shomer nageah?

[vashti]

Quote:

Originally Posted by enterprise

it's ok i don't believe in shomer nageah but then again that is like how a lot of people who are Muslims now i hear many convert because in socety it kind of sets you apart from others. but we still shouldn't make fun of it .

And don't ask about the kids more religious then the parents thing thats just strange , maybe g-d spoke to us or something i dunno.

edit: how do you date a girl who is shomer nageah?

I think it depends on which sect she follows. The more orthodox she is, the less likely she will be able to date casually at all.

And just for clarity, I didn't say "more religious". I said "more observant" because I feel there is a distinct difference.

[enterprise]

2 thinks, sorry for the mix up but yah thats kinda what i meant
and that well she was planning on telling a guy she liked that she liked him and finding out if he liked her as we were talking about it so she cna't be completely orthadox or she wouldn't at all.

[vashti]

Well, then I guess you will just have to talk to her about your feelings. If she feels it is inappropriate to be dating, I am sure she will tell you.

[enterprise]

but i know she likes someone else so would it be wise to do so as i don't know if she woudl speak to me again , friends is something.

i mean isn't that what you tell everyone, make sure it's mutual?

[vashti]

If you KNOW she likes someone else, then maybe you should just tell her when she is over HIM, she should consider YOU.

[enterprise]

does that even work, lol. I mean if somebody said to me that i don't think it would make me like her anymore.

But i don't know i will find out if he likes her, if he doesn't then i gues i should tell her that i like her?

[enterprise]

W00tness, i changed her aim name but not mine

[19:32] Lauryn: good news is because i wasnt at work i got to talk to zack for like 5 min ( in between helping my dad)
[19:32] Joseph122791 Yo:
[19:32] Joseph122791 Yo: any good news there?
[19:33] Joseph122791 Yo: or is he still clueless and wants to help u overcome ur rpobs?
[19:33] Joseph122791 Yo: problems*
[19:33] Lauryn: We gave up on trying to get anything out of him.
[19:33] Joseph122791 Yo: for good?
[19:33] Lauryn: yup
[19:34] Lauryn: it doesn't appear that he likes me, and if there's something he wants to tell me he will on his own.
[19:34] Joseph122791 Yo: did you actually tell him you liked him or hinted it to him?
[19:34] Lauryn: he knows.
[19:34] Joseph122791 Yo: how
[19:34] Joseph122791 Yo: lol
[19:35] Lauryn: i dont know how to keep things form him basically.


So good news eh?