Like anything else, OV, dreams are what you make of them.

BTW, You: "Everything has a reason and there must be a reason to why that dream was the way that dream was."

Does it take a lot of effort to talk out of both your mouth AND your ass?

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LOL you guys!

Regardless, the dream really spoke to me. And I took action on it. And my "gut" tells me that was the correct thing to do... so all is well

By the way, my dream this evening (another "nap dream") was pretty intense as well. I wont go into all the detail... but I'll say this: I've always been "on my own". My parents arent very involved (I left home at 17) and I dont even receive child support. I could go on and on.

Anyway, I had a dream about my daughter. In this dream she was being a total brat (opposite how she is - she's an easy child). There were various scenes. Messy play areas. Her being sick and gripey. Different stuff. In every scene there was someone there being concerned and/or helpful. Honestly, in real life, I've always had to go the tough situations alone. It's not been easy at times... but I made it.

Anyway, the dream was weird that way. I didnt need the help they were offering, but felt very appreciative of the offers and warm inside knowing I wasnt alone in it all.

Another dream that sent me a big message.

What? I still stick to my quote above. Im just saying that the meaning is so unique to every individual that using magazines and dream analyzer is pointless. Don't make fun of my ass!

I wish I could dream as often as you. I seem to get them very rarely. I usually struggle to fall asleep and when I do I just wake up the next morning . Your other dream with the daughter. Crazy to see the opposite of what it is in the awake state.

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Try this. And dont laugh - and you dont have to tell me if it works for you LOL:

Eat something chocolate, or drink a half a cup of coffee before you go to bed. Then masturbate (usually helps you fall asleep quicker).

Keep a notepad by your bed and write your dreams (if you recall them) the minute you wake. Before you get out of bed. If you get up and around first, they disappear (like a morning fog).

Cant say it'll work for you. I'm a big dreamer by default. But the chocolate thing makes it even more intense. (the m part is just for getting yourself to sleep faster LOL)

I agree. But this particular dream was taking a situation I am very sensitive about... and using it to work out other things altogether. Confirming the fact that I am NOT alone in my current struggles. Both of my ex husbands were in the dream too - and very kind. Its funny because they were offering me personal items (guitars, and other pieces of monetary value). I woke up feeling very comforted - and very much NOT alone in my life. In addition to making new friends lately... I've also very recently began talking with my family again. I think this dream was telling me that its time to accept love and help from those sources - - even if I've already proven I can make it on my own.

(edited to add: ) The "making it on my own stuff" I'm already past proving to myself. I did that. Accomplished. Can cross it off the list. I think this dream was symbolic of the fact that I'm ready to move on from that in my life. That everything is already in place - its just a matter of me accepting it, and making the transformation.

Anyway, if you like dream stuff, you'll love this story. I'll post it next

Several years ago I was dealing with a recurring dream. Those are kind of freaky. This one especially so. I never told it to anyone because it scared me so so bad.

I had it in a different form when I was a teenager (details less intense, etc). As I got older, it became more clear. And I would just have the dream every so often. It was one of those you couldnt go back to sleep after...

After my divorce I dated a man for about a year and a half. In the beginning we were very close, intimate (not sexual - intimate). One day he comes over and he says "I had a very disturbing dream about you last night"

The hair stood up on the back of my neck. I cant explain how I knew, but I knew. I held my hand up to stop him from saying any more and said "I'll be right back" (which really flipped him out).

I went to the back of the house and got a notepad. I wrote down my dream. The recurring one. Detail for detail. I ripped the page off the pad, folded it, and stuck it in my back pocket.

I returned to the living room, apologized and asked him to continue. He recited my dream. He HAD my dream. I was practically in shock.

I took the paper out of my back pocket and handed it to him. He unfolded it, started to read it, and his eyes just got bigger and bigger and then filled with tears (probably freaked). He said "How did you know what I dreamed?"

I laughed and said "Because that is MY dream".

I will never understand that one. Unless it was an intended "message". It certainly felt like one at that point.

Talk about eerie.

p.s. I dont have that dream anymore. THANK GOODNESS

Again with men playing significant roles in your dreams. Evidently, for you, a man is the finishing touch to a job well-done.

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You know I love your ass, OV. (Especially when you make it talk dirty.)

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I didnt catch your meaning. Were you talking about the recent one (about my daughter) or the recurring one?

All of them. In the first dream, your BF is managing things and M. J. Fox is noteworthily in the kitchen; in the second, your brother gets you both adopted and (presumably) saved from scavenging garbage; in the third, both your ex's are being (uncharacteristically?) supportive, lending to your feeling comfortable; and your fourth, psychic dream was also the dream of...guess what?...another man. Always a man playing a significant role.

Maybe, too, these dreams disclose the ways you unknowingly sabotage your love relationships by illuminating some of the roles you're ambivalent about letting men play in your life, and resist the moment it appears they are about to, or might.

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Interesting. But actually the second dream you mentioned was my daughters dream. She dreamed he and her brother were homeless because I died on my birthday. And the fourth one (the recurring dream) involved no man - other than the fact that a man in my life had the same dream while we were dating.

As for sabotage... I dont see that (though I may be too close to it all to be objective). This last relationship, for example, I dont feel I was in the wrong in any way. I was lied to, mistreated, etc - so I broke it off. Am I missing something?

I think I am more often sabotaging myself (LOL) realizing now that I have (unintentionally) chose men (OR attracted men) that are much like my father.

I hope this presentation doesn't "somehow" tie in with the threat of global terrorism

Hayward, I thought your dream analyses technique was very good. You remained very objective and references that were not objective were very specific. Maybe we should start a thread on dream analyses.

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My Demon revokes any prayer
He's grown contempt for love and hope
He betrays trust, twists truth and fair
Indifference is his way to cope
Engulfing sound of sensations
He quells with voices of despair
And muse of short lived inspirations
Flees at the sight of his cold stare
~Moy Demon - Mihayeel Lermontov~

That would be fun

I think what Hayward may have been referring to is that you may unintentionally or subconsciously assign some roles to men in your life, which are prone to failure and when that failure occurs it then becomes a method of distancing yourself and a reason to reinforce a view point of continuous mistreatment by male subjects.

But then again, I could be wrong, Hayward can be very abstract with concepts

By the way, you mentioned your father, what kind of a man was he?

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My Demon revokes any prayer
He's grown contempt for love and hope
He betrays trust, twists truth and fair
Indifference is his way to cope
Engulfing sound of sensations
He quells with voices of despair
And muse of short lived inspirations
Flees at the sight of his cold stare
~Moy Demon - Mihayeel Lermontov~