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21-12-05, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TAVS I believe it is Plato who has an argument for the existance of God. Without boring with details, he says that people who believe in God generally live a better life than those who don't. They're better people on the average. In what way? I ask because I know plenty of "religious" people who are downright crappy human beings.
Originally Posted by TAVS If you don't believe in God and there is a God, you lose big. I read The Republic, and I don't remember reading him say this. Granted, it's been several years since I read it, but in any case, that line of thinking is based on Christian theology. Plato lived before the birth of Jesus, so the idea of being punished for not believing in God (or rewarded for your belief in) wasn't even invented yet. I will agree that Plato later had a very large influence on Christian theology, though.
Originally Posted by TAVS So put all that together and you might as well believe in God as it's the best option available. I agree with you, but you can't talk yourself in to being a believer if you simply don't believe. Have you ever tried convincing yourself that Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny is real?  | |
21-12-05, 06:34 AM
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| | Woah there Shh! I'm not preaching here, just voicing something I read. As you saw in my main post, this topic isn't about God so much as a weak attempt at a witty reply to Lloyd. I wouldnt be completely shocked if it were someone other than Plato; I guess I wont know until I stop by Mom's and find my book from college 6yrs ago. 
And yes, some religions people are crappy; that's why I said on average. Those 'crappy' religions people you mention, are generally not the type of people a 'god' would consider his best followers.
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Originally Posted by Tone Hey is that what Plato says really? Why don't you ask Whayard? He was there. 
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Originally Posted by vashti Have you ever tried convincing yourself that Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny is real? Are you trying to say that Santa and the bunny are not real??? 
P.S. How can we be certain that Santa is not God in human form 
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Originally Posted by Tone I didn't do it.
I swear... That's not what Tone said.
Come on now, who's tellin' the truth here?
Tone?
Or Tone?
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Originally Posted by Mishanya It was me! See!
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