There Can not be a Positive Existance Without a Positive Purpose

[Mishanya]

I can't stop thinking about this theory I had this morning

For some reason it hit me today that the existance status of a person is governed by this theory:

Positive Existance = Positive Purpose x The Law of Averages

Thus acts of continuous, selfless positive, purpose = Positive Existance and Positive Self Image.

While the opposite is also true

Continuous acts of negative, self gratifying, exploitative and destructive purpose = Guilt, fear, destruction, negative self image and negative existance

(So even if you consider an example of a filthy reach drug dealer whose sole purpose is to create desruction and ruin lives, will have a guiltful, fearful, destructive and unhappy existance with a negative self image even if rich enough to fulfil any desire in the material form.)

In my head I can not disprove this theory no matter how hard I try

What do you guys think?

[Tone]

Hmmmmmm.

I'm on my way out, I'll give this some thought and post tomorrow when I get to work~

[Late_vamp]

if its about positive existance , then i believe you are right , unless your goal is to be a bad person that does bad things , some ppl are just evil .

[misombra]

your theory is far from new. there have been a lot of studies done on the effects of well-being on health just as there have been many studies on the effects of health on well-being. there have also been a lot of studies done on the effects of money on well-being. i can get you some stuff to read if you want.

[Mishanya]

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Originally Posted by misombra

your theory is far from new. there have been a lot of studies done on the effects of well-being on health just as there have been many studies on the effects of health on well-being. there have also been a lot of studies done on the effects of money on well-being. i can get you some stuff to read if you want.

That would be great, thanks Sombra

[Mishanya]

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Originally Posted by Late_vamp

if its about positive existance , then i believe you are right , unless your goal is to be a bad person that does bad things , some ppl are just evil .

Thanks LV

There are people whose goal is to be bad people or to be bad people without even realising that they are bad, but I am starting to think that the negative purpose that these people dedicate themselves to ends up forming their negative existance and a negative self perception. Other People (Outside of self) being an external perception of self. So, if external perception of self is negative, the internal perception of self soon follows suit

E.g. If a person hates all people, that person also hates him / herself on a conscious or a subconscious level.

[Only-virgins]

Being good or bad is not a goal. Its motivated by some reason. What that reason is?, well, that is why we have criminal psychologists..

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Originally Posted by Mishanya

E.g. If a person hates all people, that person also hates him / herself on a conscious or a subconscious level.

Only if he hates the other people because of a human fault that he has also. I hate everyone else but I love myself. My reason? I think everyone else is stupider then me, proof? lots of it everyday I live. I am give that as an example that a person can hate everyone but like himself....arn't those people called stuck up?

[Kiechi]

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Originally Posted by Mishanya

E.g. If a person hates all people, that person also hates him / herself on a conscious or a subconscious level.

Certain people hate others because they see something they don't like in them that they possess themselves.

[Tone]

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Originally Posted by Kiechi

Certain people hate others because they see something they don't like in them that they possess themselves.

Or the opposite.

They see something in them that they WISH they had themself.

Jealousy can often lead to hate.

[Chlorine]

Mishanya----"There Can not be a Positive Existance Without a Positive Purpose"

I look at it simply. To be a happy person, think happy thoughts. Make the best out of every situation.

[Rosebud]

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Originally Posted by Mishanya

Positive Existance = Positive Purpose x The Law of Averages

Thus acts of continuous, selfless positive, purpose = Positive Existance and Positive Self Image.

While the opposite is also true

Continuous acts of negative, self gratifying, exploitative and destructive purpose = Guilt, fear, destruction, negative self image and negative existance

(So even if you consider an example of a filthy reach drug dealer whose sole purpose is to create desruction and ruin lives, will have a guiltful, fearful, destructive and unhappy existance with a negative self image even if rich enough to fulfil any desire in the material form.)

In my head I can not disprove this theory no matter how hard I try

What do you guys think?

Come on now Mish, this is too easy. Of course I agree with you on this. If one proceeds to do all types of negative things such as deal drugs or kill other people or whatever that may be, of course they have a negative self image.

Think about it..why do they do it? Becasue they feel that's the only way they can survive, or because that's all they know...which is not the case in reality (they could change that if they wanted), they give themself that image by thinking that's all they can do or be in life!

[Mishanya]

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Originally Posted by Only-virgins

I think everyone else is stupider then me, proof?

If you believe that everyone else is stupider than you that means that you know everything that 6 Billions people (or so) know combined + more.

A person ofcourse can believe that he is smart and everyone else is stupid, but ultimately if everyone else is stupid and everyone else is the external perception of self then the person will view self as stupid as well (Even if not realizing it). Ofcourse, some never realize and die while trapped in their negative existance.

In other words, a person whose purpose it is to make everyone look stupid will lead a life full of stupidity. A person whose purpose is to exploit will have a life full of exploits. A person who's purpose is to ruin lives will also have his life in ruins. etc... Negative purpose = Negative perception and Negative Existance

[Mishanya]

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

Come on now Mish, this is too easy. Of course I agree with you on this. If one proceeds to do all types of negative things such as deal drugs or kill other people or whatever that may be, of course they have a negative self image.

Think about it..why do they do it? Becasue they feel that's the only way they can survive, or because that's all they know...which is not the case in reality (they could change that if they wanted), they give themself that image by thinking that's all they can do or be in life!

I'm glad you agree dear

I'm trying to push this a bit further, because what this means is that existance of a person is governed by person's purpose. I think this can lead people to a much higher state of awareness, because what we consider selfless acts become selfish acts and what we used to consider as selfish acts are actually self destructive. Selfish and Selfless acts become one when you give selflessly you gain a positive self perception so even though you are being selfless you are also being selfish (Just a little something to show how my thoughts are bouncing around this)

[Rosebud]

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Originally Posted by Mishanya

I'm glad you agree dear

I'm trying to push this a bit further, because what this means is that existance of a person is governed by person's purpose. I think this can lead people to a much higher state of awareness, because what we consider selfless acts become selfish acts and what we used to consider as selfish acts are actually self destructive. Selfish and Selfless acts become one when you give selflessly you gain a positive self perception so even though you are being selfless you are also being selfish (Just a little something to show how my thoughts are bouncing around this)

I learned that awhile back from an episode of a friends where Pheobe was trying to do a selfless act and because of her generosity she kept getting gifts and such.

There is nothing in the world that is selfless....When you do a good deed, you feel good, whether you do it for that intention or not is irrelevant. I have always thought "humans" were selfish no matter how you look at it. There is not one thing you can tell me that we as humans do that is not selfish.

[RSK]

uh oh, which brave soul is gonna start a debate with Mish???

lol