Maybe if they kill enough Americans who volunteer their service, the United States may consider...GASP! Leaving?!

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If someone could prove to me that torture works, that it actually gets results, I would have absolutely no problem with it. None. If a few people have to suffer to save the many, go for it. But I don't think it does. I think it's just a waste.

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God, so atrocious in the Old Testament, so attractive in the New--the Jekyl and Hyde of sacred romance.
-Mark Twain

If people are good only because they fear punishment and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.
-Albert Einstein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redacted_(film)

I agree with you that Guatanamo Bay IS an outrage. Did you know that out of 775 detainees brought to Guantanamo, approximately 420 have been released without charge. 420 people who did nothing wrong were held without charge in a prison without any rights what so ever. And Of the roughly 355 still incarcerated, U.S. officials said they intend to eventually put 60 to 80 on trial and free the rest. What you propose i.e. " camel-fuccking towelhead caught on the battlefield should be killed with bullets soaked in pork grease and their bodies left in a pool of piss" is equvalent to massacre of innocent people who did nothing wrong not too disimilar to the terrorists US is "allegedly" fighting against. Did you know that many of these detainees were not even taken from the the battlefield? They were given to US by word of mouth for promised rewards. Some of them were just normal people and result of someone in their tribe trying to make a quick buck.

What I also find interesting is how a lot of people fail to see Guatanamo Bay as an instrument to bypass US constitution and undermine (if not directly attack) the rights of ordinary Americans. Guatanamo Bay is a testament that any person of any nationality (including US citizents be theyr terrorist, political enemies or someone the government doesn't like) can be taken to an undisclosed location without trial and be held indefinately by a government for any reason what so ever. I see Guatanamo Bay as an example of exact thing US forefathers tried to eliminate from your country's future when they wrote the US constitution.

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My Demon revokes any prayer
He's grown contempt for love and hope
He betrays trust, twists truth and fair
Indifference is his way to cope
Engulfing sound of sensations
He quells with voices of despair
And muse of short lived inspirations
Flees at the sight of his cold stare
~Moy Demon - Mihayeel Lermontov~

Damn you, DM! Now look what you've gone and done! Now we are going to have to listen to all the foreigners and their anti-US bullshit again. I ought to smack you with a rolled-up newspaper.

Why don't you just delete this thread and give us a break, darling?

I think it's funny when some one points out flaws in US political system they are straight away accused as foreign invaders with their anti-US bullshit. I don't understand why someone who tells the truth should be labelled in such a way. My government has flaws too and I encourage people (from any country) to point out these flaws to me so I can work towards and rally people towards fixing them.

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My Demon revokes any prayer
He's grown contempt for love and hope
He betrays trust, twists truth and fair
Indifference is his way to cope
Engulfing sound of sensations
He quells with voices of despair
And muse of short lived inspirations
Flees at the sight of his cold stare
~Moy Demon - Mihayeel Lermontov~

Because no matter how much you bitch about US policy, you can't do anything about it.

Mish - Don't be dumb. Not everyone agrees that it is a "flaw" in our system, and no one cares enough about your government to waste our time.

For the record, just because those people aren't being charged does not mean they are innocent.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread.

Yes I can. I can speak the truth and open people's eyes to it, how it affects them and what consequences of what happens now might happen in the future. A lot of people changed their voting preferences on that alone.

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My Demon revokes any prayer
He's grown contempt for love and hope
He betrays trust, twists truth and fair
Indifference is his way to cope
Engulfing sound of sensations
He quells with voices of despair
And muse of short lived inspirations
Flees at the sight of his cold stare
~Moy Demon - Mihayeel Lermontov~

Can someone tell me what the Truth is, and prove it please?

2 + 2 = 4

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My Demon revokes any prayer
He's grown contempt for love and hope
He betrays trust, twists truth and fair
Indifference is his way to cope
Engulfing sound of sensations
He quells with voices of despair
And muse of short lived inspirations
Flees at the sight of his cold stare
~Moy Demon - Mihayeel Lermontov~

Maybe I'll delete it vash... but not yet. I like a heated exchange, it makes me feel warm and cozy

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"Hey Nick, wanna go lolerskating later?"

"Sorry I can't, I booked tickets for a ride on the roflcopter today"

Why don't you hit up that international muslim matrimonial site that is popping up in this thread, and find yourself a girl to make you warm and cozy instead?

I'd so bone a Muslim chick. I've seen Muslim girls on campus I'd love to do. And best of all, they're probably virgins and aren't looking for some manwhore with 3 dozen notches carved on his bedpost

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"Hey Nick, wanna go lolerskating later?"

"Sorry I can't, I booked tickets for a ride on the roflcopter today"

We should vote with our guns.

It's the only way democracy can revive itself.

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